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Date Posted: 11:32:19 02/21/06 Tue In reply to: BILLYT 's message, "Re: Norrod Answer and Explanation" on 05:25:23 02/21/06 Tue > All above said is so True . Yet it's the same story every generation. I hope that one day there will be a time where it's not about Us and become's about them again , ( the DOG'S ) Really Now. And My hat's off to anyone weither they are Well Known n breeding Cur or just got in a got lucky with a few Ch's, Breeding isn't and easy and never will be just look at mankind itself that should speak enough for all to see. Stay True STAY GAME.. NAS I read Mikes post and it was right on the money.Its >not to >say that what you are doing will not work,but where >you made >the statement that you keep what you have and don't >let it out goes in your favor. >As Mike said if you produce a world beater and its in >anothers hands there is a percentage that will indeed >change >the pedigree. >The part of if somehow someone was able to get a >feamle off you there again is a high percentage that >they will indeed breed her and because of her blood >will try and cash in on the pups and under bid >you.And in most cases it would be as if they were >giveing the dogs away. >FLoyd asked what most seem as alot of money for his >pups.But when one spends a life time of trial and >error and hits gold there is no reason to more or less > give them away. >Example at a show in La.I met some locals from New >Orleans >they said they were selling the same line as FLoyd but >almost a thousand $$$$$ cheaper or for three hundered >dollars. >Now that is bad enough but as with every line out >there today if someone has your line and the dogs >don't pan out the bashing and name calling will start >and never stop. >One other thing if others belief you can help them in >anyway they will indeed be your good ole boy but if >you give the help and it does not turn out or you get >out of dogs you find out in a hurry just who your >friends are. >But I belief you already know that part.I met the >breeder of the MOLLYBEE dogs and was fasinated in his >dealings. >I will go on record as to say in all these years I >never seen pups that looked better then he produced.I >mean fat healthy,papered pups out of proven blood and >the papers had no flaws in them. >He sold the pups for around three hundered and was >from what I observed an honest man. >He told me when I asked why so cheap and from a >bloodline second to none. >He said there are those that will make the blood stand >out and prove to all that its worth its weight in gold. >But then he took me by surprize and said within a year >or more most will call him and ask if they could trade >the now young dog back for another pup. >He explained to me although these are not bad dogs >they are more then most can handle and he even was >given that $300.00 >pup back for nothing in return. >He knew his dogs and when someone gave or traded for >another pup he would keep the young dog and wait for >it to mature.He was batting close to eighty five >percent that after keeping them until they matured >they were sold for three times the amount as most >turned out and increased his rep ten fold as he >himself was not into the fun and games of long ago.Man >was that fellow smart and had the knownledge to boot. >I said years ago that no matter what line of dogs each >of those that I called friends had that we would never >let the dogs ruin our friendship. >Well I got out of the dogs and I thought I had the >black plaque as there were very few days that went by >that someone did not come over to shoot the lingo. >I still have a couple that are friends that we can >converse with each other on other subjects but after >reading what Mike said it sure is true.People (not) >will be your bud until there is no need for your >presence anymore. >I got older and my thinking became somewhat smarter in >who >I help or deal with and as I said I donot play the fun >and games. >So when you bail out is when you find out how things >really are for sure. >Your head is right on as far as direction that you >choose. >Please forgive me for my two cents but what Mike said >is true. >I also feel very stongely that if someone gives you a >pup >that is not your blood.It should me kept with the >breeders name on it and not changed. >The dogs you breed should recieve the credit (but one >also >has to except the credit for the bad also) that is the >down fall. >But people are the greatest actors in the world they >will tell you anything you want to hear and make all >the that you want sound like someone tickleing ones >ears. >I don't always agree with everyone and for reasons I >myself >know but keep to myself. >You I'am sure know enough when you are being taken for >a ride.Its funny when one stands in front of you >bragging about this or that and you know their lieing >through thier teeth.Sometimes it hard to stand there >and lisson to the puke spewing out of their mouths. >Keep in touch as its a rough road out there today. > > > > > > > > > >>Mike it has been very exciting. You sure are proud of >>>your line and those that have your dogs are zealous >>>followers of what you have accomplished on the >winning >>>table. >>>In the future I hope I will not offend anyone when I >>>make reference to MY RED NOSE FAMILY in positive >>>terms. If I had the time I would love to bred >>>something off your winning table but that is not >>>possible. My breeding table is full and I like what I >>>have been served. >>>Thanks for your time and I will be sure to not get in >>>your way when making comments about RED NOSE DOGS. I >>>don't need to explain your line as you have many >>>people who will do that gladly. What I am breeding >>>within my own tiny gene pool is the best of what I >>>want in a DOG and RED NOSE FAMILY. There are millions >>>of pit bulls all over the world but only a few good >>>ones and even then the percentage is only 1 percent >of >>>1 percent. >>>When I say I have the better DOG, please take no >>>offense. I'm like a bragging father proud of his >>>family. So far no one has bought a single cur from me >>>or a stolen dog or one with a false pedigree. I think >>>that is a good record so far for a mustard seed like >>>myself. My original purpose for having these dogs is >>>to develop my OWN BLOODLINE no matter how long it >>>takes. I am sure my line will never become large, but >>>it will be nevertheless small with a huge reputation >>>and honest accountability. >>>Bad Frank has shown me much patience and >>>consideration. I will say that his yard is one I >>>respect and he himself is a flying person with >>>conviction and dedication. Good example of a breeder >>>and competitor. >>>Mike your breeding years are interesting and your >dogs >>>as well . Hope you the best on your book and may you >>>and your family have a rich and happy life. >>> >>>FigTreeJohn >>>REALDOGS >>>realdogs@aol.com >>> >>>"every dog has its day ..." >> >>Let me tell you a true story from years ago and this >>is how I feel for the lessen I learned. >> >>I was outside Chicago in Tinley Park at Pat >>Bodzianowski' house. A young kid showed up. I not sure >>why but the kid called him God father. I know some of >>the area dogmen called him Godfather but I took it as >>him just being a gangster but Pat was Catholic so he >>could have been his Godfather. :) >> >>The kid came up to Pat in the yard so proud of his new >>young pup and the kid handed Pat his papers. Pat took >>the papers and crunch them up and whip his ass with >>them and said that is all they're good for. The kid >>was very upset and ask why he did that and Pat said, >>kid you are wasting your time and money on this >>quality of pup. Best thing for you to do is put the >>pup down and cut your losses and let me sell you a >>good pup which you will have better luck with. >> >>I never said a word but I saw the hussle. >>Well, the kid put the pup down and Pat sold him >>another one. >>After the kid left I said to Pat, How could you con >>that kid that way? >> >>Pat said, If that kid does not have more faith in his >>dogs then to listen to a dumb old pollock like me and >>others, he doesn't deserve to have them! >>Besides, I didn't want him to have a litter mate to my >>pups!! >> >>So I took from that the fact, that NO ONE will ever >>talk my dogs down, they will have to prove it first >>and I will have to see it with my own eyes and I won't >>believe anything in dogs without it being proven to me >>first! >>Because if I don't believe in them why should anyone >>else? >> >>Now John, I want you to think back real hard. Have I >>ever jammed on you for your brag? >>Just don't do it at my expense and jam on my brag... >> >>News Flash for everyone.........PEOPLE CAN STILL BE >>FRIENDS WITHOUT FEEDING THE SAME BLOODLINE OF DOGS!! >> >>This is what is wrong in the game today, hating for no >>reason. >> >>John I hope someday you will have the same problem as >>me that I have with my straight Red Devil blood. >>Because of almost 50% William/Hemphill blood mine has >>got like so many other red nose bloodlines. To tight >>where at times I have problems producing a lot of >>quality dogs with power. >>When I do, I won't risk losing it in the []. I will >>treasure it and save it and put it back for myself. >> >>But I do have one thing that a lot of other OFRN >>breeders don't have and that is when I do cross, mine >>adds to the power because the most dominate factor in >>the line is Red Devil and it is a power line like Eli >>bloodline of Boudreaux. >> >>I personally feel mine are more like Clouse dogs now, >>where they can be crossed with anything and produce >>good right down to 1/4 of my blood. >> >>Good luck because you will need it with all the >>husslers and haters and con artists out there these >>days trying to cheat you out of your money or your >>dogs.. >> >>Another thing Pat said to me that was true. >>You are the greatest guy going when they want >>something from you but after you get off of it, you >>are a no good co__su__er after you do! >> >>Man the users who ride along and try to make money off >>any success you have! If you get off a female they >>will breed it and sell pups half price just to cut >>your throat! >>Or when you do produce a world beater, they change the >>paper work to give the credit to themseleves! >> >>I could go on and on but you know what I mean or you >>will learn soon enough..........later. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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