Subject: Re: WHO PAYS WHAT TAXES … THE LATEST |
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Ronlee
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Date Posted: 16:39:08 01/22/02 Tue
In reply to:
Rootbeer :o)
's message, "Re: WHO PAYS WHAT TAXES … THE LATEST" on 13:21:29 01/22/02 Tue
>Yep, and them rotten turnips will be investigated. I sure don't see any left-wing spokespersons defending them with the patented 'we don't understand, they couldn't help it, it's the environment these people are raised in' defense.
No, being laid off does not exempt you for life from
>paying taxes. But if you don't have an income you
>don't pay income tax. Turnips are turnips and they
>most likely will remain turnips....and not all of them
>are at the bottom of the food chain either...look at
>this Enron thing. Isn't this just another case of
>people who contribute nothing (okay, maybe they did
>contribute something, for what it was worth) and
>collect everything?
>
>And I know more than a few people who are stuck in
>minimum wage jobs and will probably not ever make
>anything more than minimum wage. The majority of those
>people work two minimum wage jobs. Doesn't that count
>for something? Why is it I'm not allowed to blast the
>big guys in general but you're allowed to blast the
>little guys in general?
>
>Now having said that, I know a few of those people of
>which you speak too. They are whiners and somehow they
>missed the whole point of just how to work for a
>living.
>
>Want to know my theory on the subject? lol The farms
>went under and the work ethic went with it. Know any
>lazy farmers? I've never heard of one.
>Rootbeer :o)
>
>
>>>Worse and worse?, I was laid off in the late 70's,
>>does that mean I shouldn't have to pay taxes any more?
>>As far as turnips, this country is full of them and it
>>ain't getting any better. Been shopping lately? The
>>stores are full of people in uniforms and name-tags
>>just wandering around taking up space. Service is a
>>thing of the past. Hell, for alot of people work has
>>become a pastime. Just clockin', making my hours,
>>gettin' by. I don't know the people you deal with on a
>>daily basis but I'd just like to find "a few good
>>men". Finding someone to show up for work 2 days in a
>>row is like hitting the jackpot for me. Yep, these
>>people won't be paying much if any taxes. They don't
>>work! Somehow they've got it in their heads that work
>>is for chumps. Where do you think they could get such
>>a notion? Liberals, the "equal outcome without equal
>>effort" crowd, won't be happy until they've pounded
>>the American work ethic into the ground. It's really
>>no wonder the middleclass is shrinking. Working hard
>>and getting ahead is much harder to do than getting
>>sucked into the malaise. This diatribe may seem to
>>have little to do with who pays what taxes but in a
>>way it has everything to do with it. It's like the
>>minimum wage argument. Are there really people out
>>there who show up for work everyday, and actually
>>work, stuck at minimum wage? I don't buy that one
>>either. Minimum wage is just so much more liberal
>>claptrap designed to prove that "we're on your side
>>guys", "let's make them greedy rich bastards pay".
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm grasping your figures. Half the people pay the
>>>lion's share. But you can't get blood from a turnip
>>>can you? If you ain't got it to pay then what to you
>>>expect? And with all the lay-offs its only going to
>>>get worse and worse. Eventually someone somewhere is
>>>going to have to pay more. It's one of those trickle
>>>down theories isn't it?
>>>
>>>Rootbeer :o)
>>>
>>>>>You're not grasping the figures. The top 50% are
>>>>paying 96% of the taxes. That means the bottom 50%
>>are
>>>>paying a whopping 4%. That's out of whack right
>>there.
>>>>So you say the top 50% should just vote accordingly
>>>>because it's them against the lower 50%. Not quite.
>>>>Take the top 50% and start dividing them up. Those
>at
>>>>the lower end of the top 50% have had their tax
>>burden
>>>>lessened so that they line up with the lower 50% and
>>>>say, "yea, make them rich bastards pay". Everytime
>>you
>>>>hear this 'fair share' nonsense that's what is
>>>>happening.
>>>>
>>>>The object of taxation in this country has become
>>>>twisted. It used to be people paid taxes to
>>contribute
>>>>to society. Now the Government continually tells
>>>>people that 'you haven't gained anything from this
>>>>society' therefor you shouldn't have to pay
>anything.
>>>>That's bull! I'm becoming weary of people who want
>to
>>>>contribute nothing and collect everything.
>>>>
>>>>
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