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Author: Duncan7 |
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Date Posted: 05:51:24 12/06/07 Thu In reply to: Stephen 's message, "Actually, gas and diesel is just as cheep in Europe but" on 05:42:14 12/06/07 Thu What's your point stephen. I haven't used gasoline in years now. >The price of crude oil is the same in Europe as it is >in the USA. > >But European countries tax fuels at a high enough rate >that they can pay for roads. So the price of fuel >there more closely resembles true costs of auto use. >As you are well aware, the cost of driving is >effectively subsidized by the federal government in >the USA. Our fuel costs do not have the taxes needed >to maintain the infrastructure nor the additional >costs due to vehicle air pollution. As a consequence, >all Americans subsidize the cost of fuel here through >their income tax. > >Of course this capitalist subsidy of the US >transportation industry is direct government >intervention and is nothing close tothe free-market >economy that you say you support. Oh no, try to change >any of the existing government suport structures by >makingpollutors pay and you and your ilk are all up in >arms about socialism and mis-use of taxes. > >The fact is, you guys are so brainwashed and >close-minded that you can't even begin to see that you >are just a revenue producer for the our US-fascist >empire-builders. It's like raising chickens for thier >eggs and eating them when their done laying. We're the >chickens and profit are the eggs. lol > >>Really, seems to me that all I hear these days is the >>new fuel efficient this or that. And your right gas >>has always been cheaper here, but as prices go up >>people tend to be more observant of what goes out of >>their wallets you think small cars would be gaining >>like they are if gas was still under a dollar? I >>really doubt it. These meetings are nothing new. If >>they don't get it by now there really isn't any new >>information to be discussed. JUST DO IT! And frankly >>the USA isn't going to make a dent as china gains more >>and more ground as a world producer. They are hungry >>for the energy now. The meetings/vacations need to >>stop and these political wonders need to start getting >>their jobs done. If your going to start moving away >>from fossil fuels and diversifying into renewable >>fuels the work needs to be done here not Bali. This is >>just a rehash of the same thing we've seen time and >>time again. There is no difference. >> >>>>Economics is pretty much going to dictate higher mpg >>>>vehicles pretty much the same way it did in europe. >>> >>>?? Gas prices have always been cheaper here than they >>>have been in Europe. And as gas prices have been >>>rising here, average MPG has been going DOWN, not >up. >>>So it's not working. >>> >>>CAFE standards, however, have been proven to work. I >>>am glad we are updating them. >>> >>>>As >>>>far as getting the USA "on Board" what does going to >>>>Bali have to do with it? >>> >>>Having everyone in the world do it (or even most >>>nations) will have a far larger effect than having >one >>>nation do it. >>> >>>>You've got a long way to go and another >>>>meeting isn't going to change that. These peoples >>time >>>>would be better spent diversifying our own resources >>>>at home for a more balanced energy process. >>> >>>That's one thing the meeting is about. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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| Do you ever , ever think in generalities | Bev | 11:17:17 12/06/07 Thu |
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