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Date Posted: 11:28:34 12/11/07 Tue In reply to: Oropan 's message, ""We have a split here. Official science driven by politics, money and power, goes in one direction."" on 08:50:19 12/11/07 Tue Scientific fact drew "politics, money and power" and, now you're moaning that greed didn't prevail? >December 11, 2007 > >Posted By Marc Morano - Marc_Morano@EPW.Senate.Gov - >7:45 AM ET > >Skeptical Scientists Urge World To ‘Have the Courage >to Do Nothing' At UN Conference > >BALI, Indonesia - An international team of scientists >skeptical of man-made climate fears promoted by the UN >and former Vice President Al Gore, descended on Bali >this week to urge the world to "have the courage to do >nothing" in response to UN demands. > >Lord Christopher Monckton, a UK climate researcher, >had a blunt message for UN climate conference >participants on Monday. > >"Climate change is a non problem. The right answer to >a non problem is to have the courage to do nothing," >Monckton told participants. > >"The UN conference is a complete waste of our time and >your money and we should no longer pay the slightest >attention to the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on >Climate Change,)" Monckton added. (LINK) > >Monckton also noted that the UN has not been overly >welcoming to the group of skeptical scientists. > >"UN organizers refused my credentials and appeared >desperate that I should not come to this conference. >They have also made several attempts to interfere with >our public meetings," Monckton explained. > >"It is a circus here," agreed Australian scientist Dr. >David Evans. Evans is making scientific presentations >to delegates and journalists at the conference >revealing the latest peer-reviewed studies that refute >the UN's climate claims. > >"This is the most lavish conference I have ever been >to, but I am only a scientist and I actually only go >to the science conferences," Evans said, noting the >luxury of the tropical resort. (Note: An analysis by >Bloomberg News on December 6 found: "Government >officials and activists flying to Bali, Indonesia, for >the United Nations meeting on climate change will >cause as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year." - >LINK) > >Evans, a mathematician who did carbon accounting for >the Australian government, recently converted to a >skeptical scientist about man-made global warming >after reviewing the new scientific studies. (LINK) > >"We now have quite a lot of evidence that carbon >emissions definitely don't cause global warming. We >have the missing [human] signature [in the >atmosphere], we have the IPCC models being wrong and >we have the lack of a temperature going up the last 5 >years," Evans said in an interview with the Inhofe EPW >Press Blog. Evans authored a November 28 2007 paper >"Carbon Emissions Don't Cause Global Warming." (LINK) > >Evans touted a new peer-reviewed study by a team of >scientists appearing in the December 2007 issue of the >International Journal of Climatology of the Royal >Meteorological Society which found "Warming is >naturally caused and shows no human influence." (LINK) > >"Most of the people here have jobs that are very well >paid and they depend on the idea that carbon emissions >cause global warming. They are not going to be very >receptive to the idea that well actually the science >has gone off in a different direction," Evans >explained. > >[Inhofe EPW Press Blog Note: Several other recent >peer-reviewed studies have cast considerable doubt >about man-made global warming fears. For most recent >sampling see: New Peer-Reviewed Study finds 'Solar >changes significantly alter climate' (11-3-07) (LINK) >& "New Peer-Reviewed Study Halves the Global Average >Surface Temperature Trend 1980 - 2002" (LINK) & New >Study finds Medieval Warm Period '0.3C Warmer than >20th Century' (LINK) For a more comprehensive sampling >of peer-reviewed studies earlier in 2007 see "New >Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming >Fears" LINK ] > >‘IPCC is unsound' > >UN IPCC reviewer and climate researcher Dr. Vincent >Gray of New Zealand, an expert reviewer on every >single draft of the IPCC reports since its inception >going back to 1990, had a clear message to UN >participants. > >"There is no evidence that carbon dioxide increases >are having any affect whatsoever on the climate," >Gray, who shares in the Nobel Prize awarded to the UN >IPCC, explained. (LINK) > >"All the science of the IPCC is unsound. I have come >to this conclusion after a very long time. If you >examine every single proposition of the IPCC >thoroughly, you find that the science somewhere >fails," Gray, who wrote the book "The Greenhouse >Delusion: A Critique of "Climate Change 2001," said. > >"It fails not only from the data, but it fails in the >statistics, and the mathematics," he added. > >‘Dangerous time for science' > >Evans, who believes the UN has heavily politicized >science, warned there is going to be a "dangerous time >for science" ahead. > >"We have a split here. Official science driven by >politics, money and power, goes in one direction. >Unofficial science, which is more determined by what >is actually happening with the [climate] data, has now >started to move off in a different direction" away >from fears of a man-made climate crisis, Evans >explained. > >"The two are splitting. This is always a dangerous >time for science and a dangerous time for politics. >Historically science always wins these battles but >there can be a lot of causalities and a lot of time in >between," he concluded. > >Carbon trading ‘fraud?' > >New Zealander Bryan Leland of the International >Climate Science Coalition warned participants that all >the UN promoted discussions of "carbon trading" should >be viewed with suspicion. > >"I am an energy engineer and I know something about >electricity trading and I know enough about carbon >trading and the inaccuracies of carbon trading to know >that carbon trading is more about fraud than it is >about anything else," Leland said. > >"We should probably ask why we have 10,000 people here >[in Bali] in a futile attempt to ‘solve' a [climate] >problem that probably does not exist," Leland added. > >‘Simply not work' > >Owen McShane, the head of the International Climate >Science Coalition, also worried that a UN promoted >global approach to economics would mean financial ruin >for many nations. > >"I don't think this conference can actually achieve >anything because it seems to be saying that we are >going to draw up one protocol for every country in the >world to follow," McShane said. (LINK) > >"Now these countries and these economies are so >diverse that trying to presume you can put all of >these feet into one shoe will simply not work," >McShane explained. > >"Having the same set of rules apply to everybody will >blow some economies apart totally while others will be >unscathed and I wouldn't be surprised if the ones who >remain unscathed are the ones who write the rules," he >added. > >‘Nothing happening at this conference' > >Professor Dr. William Alexander, emeritus of the >University of Pretoria in South Africa and a former >member of the United Nations Scientific and Technical >Committee on Natural Disasters, warned poor nations >and their residents that the UN policies could mean >more poverty and thus more death. > >"My message is specifically for the poor people of >Africa. And there is nothing happening at this >conference that can help them one little bit but there >is the potential that they could be damaged," >Alexander said. (LINK) > >"The government and people of Africa will have their >attention drawn to reducing climate change instead of >reducing poverty," Alexander added. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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