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Date Posted: 01:32:05 04/09/05 Sat
Author: Mike K.
Subject: See the recent posting
In reply to: Anonymous 's message, "UBF" on 21:16:11 04/08/05 Fri

UBF is a powerful ministry doin the work of God.
UBF is neither powerful nor are they doing the work of God.
If you want to see more powerful ministries, check out The Moonies, Scientology, Church of the Latter-Day Saints, the Local Church etc. UBF is a miserable failure even according to their own standards.
WHEN EVER was a prayer topic like "120 SWS attendants" or "12 1:1 Bible studies per shepherd" ever met?
You wanna ask what's wrong? Ask UBF what's wrong with them that their prayer topics are never fulfilled.
Ask them why God doesn't listen to them, if they're so powerful and doing God's will!

They are not any cult.
See the recent posting. They may not be a "cult" depending on how you define that word, but they clearly are an MCE, TACO, SAE, CLS and a sect, which is sufficient to classify them harmful to society.

U people are making a big mistake and misunderstanding this ministry.
Well, what are we "misunderstanding", be more detailed?
I.e. Is Nick "misunderstanding" that UBF pays for his wife to divorce from him, even though he never abused her and doesn't want to leave her?
Are we "misunderstanding" that people always come troll here anonymously in order to make claims they wouldn't make if they met up with us face-to-face?
Are we "misunderstanding" "chili-in-the-eyes training" and other absurdities we have experienced in 2-10 years of UBF?

Please, clue us in a bit: what is your name, how long have you been in UBF and how much sociological, psychological and theological background can you provide in order to make your claims look backed up?

God save u people!!!!!!!!!!
Salvation has nothing to do with accepting UBFleaders who never worked in their entire life dragging the tent-making ministry of Paul into the dirt, salvation has nothing to do with 1:1 Bible Study and much less does salvation have something to do with obeying men who think they can function as mediators to God.
And:
"Whenever their heart turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away".
I pray that you might one day have the veil UBF put in front of you taken away.

"If we say that we do not have sin, we lie, and the truth is not within us".
We admit that we're not perfect, but UBF never admitted it. Much less would they admit that their imperfection is problematic or that they need to repent for their sins.
This nails them according to the very Holy Bible - and now please don't tell us UBF doesn't need to fulfill biblical requirements because they're "doing God's works".

In Christ,
Mike K.

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