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Date Posted: 14:32:01 05/24/04 Mon
Author: Joe
Subject: No respect for human rights -> dehumanization
In reply to: Gadfly 's message, "Re: old story about EE Chang Woo" on 13:50:56 05/20/04 Thu

(I suppose I'll be accused of being a "humanist" for this.) Samuel Lee's "messages," if you've read them or heard them, consistently attack the concept of human rights. Those who "claim their (human) rights" are disparaged. You read things like "people today claim their human rights too much". Even Jesus is brought into this, for example in Lee's Samaritan Woman "message": "Jesus did not mind violating her human rights..." Such messages are being repeated every Sunday in Chicago and elsewhere in UBF.

No wonder then that we experienced and read about such dehumanizing "training" dished out by Samuel Lee. After all, if Jesus "didn't mind violating people's human rights," why should a "servant of God" mind.

If the abuses in UBF were just "sinful," maybe I wouldn't have a reason for speaking out. But I personally feel compelled to speak out because the abuses I saw were not just "sinful" or "unchristian" or "unbiblical"; the abuses I saw were inhumane, stuff that even "worldly" people would have a hard time imagining.

>Sounds like he was trying to humilate them and
>demonstrate visibly who was in control, and who made
>the decisions. This is very much the reason he used to
>order men and women to get perms. And to entertain
>himself at other's expense of course.
>
>Why do you think those US troops were treating those
>Iraqi's like dogs? Just for kicks? They were ordered
>to do so by trained Military Intelligence operatives
>and CIA guys, to psychologically break them down.
>Those tactics work, which is why they use them. Of
>course it is totally morally wrong to do that in any
>situation.

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