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Date Posted: 10:01:06 02/12/05 Sat
Author: Joe Chung
Subject: Re: The Changing UBF
In reply to: Tony Lang 's message, "The Changing UBF" on 07:49:35 02/12/05 Sat

>We have had several postings recently from ubf members
>recently telling us that ubf has changed. I find this
>encouraging, but

* This isn't just recent. We've had several postings claiming that ubf has changed ever since discussion about UBF started on the internet around 2000.

* Pre-internet defenders of Sam Lee also claimed often over a 30-year period that Sam Lee and ubf had changed. It's an old story.

* The hardcore ubf defenders that have posted have never claimed that ubf has changed or admitted that it needed to change. The recent claims come from two 2ndgens who do not occupy significant positions within ubf.

* Their concept of "change" seems to be that "ubf is doing so awesome now," "ubf is so fruitful now," "God is doing such awesome work through ubf now." Think about that. That's their concept of the "change" that was needed in ubf.

* The claims of change are always accompanied by calls to "leave us alone" and "stop attacking us."

* Actions speak louder than words about "change."

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Re: The Changing UBF -- Joe, 09:12:41 02/13/05 Sun