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Date Posted: 10:12:49 10/22/04 Fri
Author: Joe
Subject: Systematic Obedience Training, the limits of
In reply to: PECAS 's message, "Re: Systematic Obedience Training" on 15:58:04 10/21/04 Thu

>>One thing that's not mentioned: Why does Bill go along
>>with it for all that time until he is finally
>>conditioned ("fully trained")? Why at some point does
>>he not just snap out of it and say, "No more of this!"
>>Of course, many (most) recruits do snap out of it.
>
>The reason that Bill goes along with Shepherd Peter's
>direction is because of the close relationship built
>up through one-to-one Bible study and testimony
>sharing. For the first year or so, the coworkers
>praised and encouraged Bill about his prayer topics
>and desires. Thus, Bill has been conditioned to
>beleive that Shepherd Peter and the other coworkers
>genuinely care about him and are praying that Bill may
>be a missionary to China. However, they are secretly
>praying that Bill be raised as a UBF shepherd and
>marry a Korean missionary by faith. When Shepherd
>Peter begins to challenge Bill to change his
>direction, Bill genuinely believes that Shepherd Peter
>wants Bill to do God's will.
>
>Remember the coworkers. They also will influence
>Bill during this time. Bill also trusts the other
>coworkers as well. If Bill is uncertain about
>Shepherd Peter's new direction Bill will discuss the
>issue with the other coworkers. Of course, the other
>coworkers will encourage Bill to obey Shepherd Peter
>and maybe even suppliment with a story or two about
>how they were reluctant to obey their shepherd at
>first but when they obeyed absolutely God blessed them
>greatly. Then, Bill is encouraged to obey, thinking
>that this is what God wants for his life.

I was thinking more along the lines of psychological background. After all, the UBF "trainers" use the same basic tactics that they used on Bill for every other desirable recruit. Yet, the tactics seem to fail at some point for most recruits. So why does the SOT program succeed at all for Bill and others, when it's clearly manipulative and abusive? Is it low self-esteem, an under-developed sense of right and wrong, the type of home that the recruit grew up in, etc? Does Steve Hassan write about this sort of thing?

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