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Date Posted: 09:25:00 11/24/04 Wed
Author: Brother in Christ
Subject: Re: My son is a UBFr
In reply to: mistakes in facts 's message, "Re: My son is a UBFr" on 20:36:09 11/23/04 Tue

Ok now Mr. mistakes in facts, I must say something about what you just said. Please feel free to respond or refute what I am saying. If anything I say is incorrect or misleading please let me know.

>I think there is a mistake in this response.
>UBF has sent thousands of dollars of relief money to
>afghanistan, north korea and bagledesh

Ok yes they did. But in the cases of the Afghanistan and North Korea donations the money was from Christmas offerings made for that purpose. So UBF did not really send any money of their own. UBF did not take any of its "regular money" to do this. They squeezed their members for this offering and UBF did not send a penny more than what was squeezed out of its members in this special Christmas offering. This is not really giving at all. Yes they sent out money but it was not really their money, they just acted as an intermediate, a go between. This type of giving does not count. Show me where they ever gave any of the regular offering money to anyone but their own for their own selfish gain. I bet you can't! Also they gave the money in the name of Samual Lee, which was a major slap in the face of those who gave. People donated so the money could be given in the name of Jesus, the true God, not Samual Lee. They took others peoples money and used it for their own glory by putting his name on in it as if he and UBF gave the money. This was not part of the deal. It was never mentioned that the money was to be given under his name. What a double cross. People honestly gave money and UBF twisted it for their gain and the gain of the leaders who put his name on it just to kiss up to his family for future benefits. How pathetic!

>UBF works with other churches and organizations for
>charity and various other activies

Whaaaaaat???? Now this is totally laughable. Who, what when. I will be the first person to publically apologize if you can prove what you just said. When did they ever work with anybody. You especially make me laugh when you say "charity and various other activities" Charity is not a word in the UBF vocabulary. Please let me know what you mean, if it is true i will join in, I love charitable activities and would want to help. Also the the JBF stuff does not count. It was not done under UBF corporate support nor did UBF give any support. Once again it was just extra money raised for this purpose, not any regular corporate money. True giving is not from excess but from regular living money. See the widow and her offering to know what i mean.

>There is a large hispanic college student population
>in chicago ubf

Yes that is true but that is only because that is all they can get. Do you honestly think for one second if whites would come that still would be true? Sorry to all my hispanic friends, (and blacks also) I love you and so does Jesus but UBF is just using you. You will be out in a second once they can get a white to replace you. Sorry but it is true.

>Dr Samuel Lee went to theological seminary!

Another highly questionable statement. It has been relatively proven that his degree came from a degrill mill and is only honorary in nature. He did not go through a Ph.D program as a normal person would think of a Ph.D program to be. Also by the way, check it out, nobody in UBF has gone to a seminary. Nobody there has a degree in theology. Isn't it sort of scary that the top brass has no theology training. It is like a CEO of a company having no business background. What you wonder about their qualifications now doesn't it.

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mistakes in facts? -- Anonymous, 15:15:16 11/24/04 Wed