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Date Posted: 00:20:14 10/11/04 Mon
Author: Bong-jin Kang
Subject: Re: UBF Doctrine
In reply to: Brian Karcher 's message, "Re: UBF Doctrine" on 08:45:12 10/10/04 Sun

I'm very thankful of your sincere reply.

I came into UBF in 1987. That was my 3rd yr in medical school during which I was already wrecked in many ways.
I was so depressed by my inabilities and sinful life(watching and wandering about low-grade movies and alcohol drinking by oneself, always claiming and blaming upon myself about every aspects of life, etc)

Yes, I came into ubf for repairing my life without any interest on the Bible.
................

Though my undesciplined and unfaithful attitudes, I was luckily(though it was an arranged marriage) married in ubf at 1992.
Maybe due to my impure heart for God, my spiritual growth was very slow. I didn't go fishing or any other activity in ubf.
My wife has had long time praying, many times crying, for me till this time.

After I got entered into my workplace(1994), I was further stressed out in many ways, chiefly due to my poor ability in work and suppressed,timid attitude.(I was and am the kind of person-- workaholic, depressed, speechless, very little latitude in mind, impatient, obscessively abhorring my body parts..,though I am better than that time,I believe.)

In the meanwhile, I came across the site,rsqubf in 2001 november. At that time I was also in much hating relationship to my previous shephard and in some jealousy for a certain person within my ubf chapter.
So, I took a sudden turn searching for my own way.(3 local churches, meeting some ex-ubf members, reading many books)
============================

By the way you said..
< Do you know what happened after this? Suddenly UBF was not so "hard". Suddenly the UBF meetins were no longer just meetings of an organization, but times of fellowship with God's people.>

My wife says in that way, that is she serves only God regardless of some faults of leaders.
If I really believe in God, I must depend on Him for those matters, too.
Further, in my chapter(snu3.ubf.or.kr related closely with John Jun) we can't find any comparable problems appearing in thos reports.
All the more, my righteousness seems to be not better than my wife.
......
Anyway, if I can understand and accept the problems of ubf, I'd like to come along that way. So, I hope you elaborate on the above sentence and some more reasonable answers to the questions.

Why not should I discuss with John Jun or any other leader in my chapter? I'm trying.

>>By the way, I wonder if you give valid answers to the
>>above questions of Joe's
>>http://voy.com/60734/8380.html post.
>
>Yes, I will respond to this post eventually.
>
>>I'm in a repeated agony in association with the
>>problem of sole(?) mission-evangelism- contrasting
>>with my job related life style or ???
>
>I do not know you, so I don't know what you are
>struggling with specifically. But I can share my
>experience in a similar matter.
>
>I also experienced such agony for the first five years
>or so in UBF. Bible study was so wonderful, yet the
>more I studied, the more angst built up. In 1992 I
>spent much time in prayer, more than any other year
>perhaps. I spent much time in a holy struggle with
>God. This was the time I was in Russia. I felt like
>Jacob wrestling with God.
>
>I had grown up Catholic, but had left the Catholic
>church after beginning Bible study. Then, after five
>years of Bible study in UBF, I was considering leaving
>yet another church. The same thing was happening in
>UBF to me that had happened in the Catholic church--I
>was going through the motions of religion. So I turned
>to Christ and read the Bible, forgetting about
>Catholicism and UBF.
>
>God showed me my problem: I had not submitted my
>entire life to Christ. There were major parts of my
>life that I was holding on to. No matter what church I
>would be in, I realized I would have the same kind of
>problems until I started submitting my entire life to
>Christ. In other words, I knew Jesus as my Savior, as
>I had accepted Christ's atoning death for my sins. But
>I did not know Jesus as my Lord, as I had not accepted
>Jesus' resurrection for my life. Philippians 3:10,11
>became my life key verses. I began to find unspeakable
>joy as I began to surrender my life to Christ, putting
>myself under his rule. I found a living hope as I
>realized not only did Christ die so that my sins might
>be forgiven, Christ rose from the dead so that I might
>live a new life, and live it for eternity.
>
>Do you know what happened after this? Suddenly UBF was
>not so "hard". Suddenly the UBF meetins were no longer
>just meetings of an organization, but times of
>fellowship with God's people. Suddenly I lost all
>malice toward my Catholic brothers and sisters.
>Suddenly I realized Christ gave us a living hope and
>that every worldly hope is perishable.
>
>I have much more to say about this, but today is
>Sunday and I must prepare myself to preach the word of
>God.
>
>Immanuel,
>Brian

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Replies:

Re: UBF Doctrine -- Brian Karcher, 08:54:11 10/11/04 Mon
- Re: UBF Doctrine -- Bong-jin Kang, 09:23:57 10/11/04 Mon
  - Re: UBF Doctrine -- Brian Karcher, 09:49:11 10/11/04 Mon
- Re: UBF Doctrine -- Chris, 11:31:30 10/11/04 Mon