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Date Posted: 16:00:11 10/04/04 Mon
Author: Chris
Subject: Re: article - another side mark
In reply to: Chris 's message, "Re: article" on 15:32:49 10/04/04 Mon

... his band of rough country men ...

Another side mark, which is not so important.

It is a common misunderstanding that Jesus' disciples were "rough country men." First, they all had very different backgrounds. Second, even some of the fishermen had been disciples of John the baptist before they met Jesus. Third, the equivalent of the fishing businesses of some of the disciples would be medium-sized enterprises today. Fourth, some of them wrote books of the Bible which show they had brilliant minds and knew how to express themselves. O course I believe these books were inspired by God, but God always used the human talents of the Biblical book authors as well. The Bible is 100% God inspired, yet also 100% human, just as Jesus is 100% God and 100% man. The Bible was not "dictated" to otherwise illiterate people like the Quran.

Yes, the disciples were from the "province" (Galilee) and they were not from the elite class. But on the other side they also were not from "the sticks" (Galilee was still Jewish country, and Capernaum was not so small) and they wer e not a bunch of fool or "losers." That would be a completely distorted picture of the disciples. The book "Ein Fisch f�r den r�mischen Kaiser" by Carsten Thiede explains the historical background of the disciples very well, unfortunately I don't know of an English translation.

It is also an interesting observation for me that UBF leadership despises "uneducated country men." This was particularly visible during the reform movement. Most of the reform chapters were in the "province," whereas the anti-reform chapters were in the capital citiies (Seoul, Chicago, Bonn, Cologne). (No wonder, since the top leadership settled in the capitals, and the top leadership is the most corrupt. In the "outskirts," UBF is usually less corrupt). With this argument my chapter director declared the reform movement as inferior. For Samuel Lee it was of first importance to "pioneer" the renowned SNU university in the capitol Seoul. He was also obsessed with Ph.D. titles, as are many other UBF leaders. On the other side, they always emphasize that the disciples were "uneducated country men." One of the many inconsistencies in the UBF mindset.

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