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Date Posted: 15:59:52 10/06/04 Wed
Author: UBFree
Subject: Re: ubf Sunday messages are junk
In reply to: Chris 's message, "Re: ubf Sunday messages are junk" on 15:16:46 10/06/04 Wed

I would say that labeling UBF messages as "junk" is generous as best. They were not only junk in and of themselves, but they were work and effort to listen too. I still remember Ike Kim reading off that 'manuscript'. And then he had the Korean accent and new students couldn't understand half of what he was saying. I remember watching more than one member doze off for a minute or two, this including Korean and non-Korean. I remember one attendent actually snoring, he had to be elbowed to wake up.
A short poem:

The 'Messagee' of Ike Kim

You himmed and Hawwed and made me sit
With pain and agony I tried not to quit
My eyes grew heavy and my mind began to wander
Finally I dreamed sweet dreams of yonder
With a sudden jolt and quick pain I did awake
An elbow in my side I suddenly did take
With much aggravation I endured that message
Next time I'll stay home and eat a sausage

>Remarkable how Lee was able to rant about history,
>philosophy and the Bible as if he knew everything,
>when in reality he didn't know jack about these
>things. I have a collection of many more of such
>examples in his "Bible sermons." Maybe I will make an
>article out of this. At least it will open the eyes of
>people to recognize that as a historian and
>philosopher, he was a charlatan. Mabye then it is
>easier for them to make the next conclusion that as a
>church leader he was also a charlatan. Si tacuisses,
>philosophus mansisses.
>
>These passages also reveal another problem of Samuel
>Lee and UBF: The complete disrespect for truth,
>reality and crude facts. Be it Biblical truth or
>historical truth, be it political history, church
>history or UBF history. He created his own "reality."
>
>Please also note that Henry Park later (after Lee's
>death even) recycled the very passage that Nick quoted
>literally in one of his sermons. Ironically, he even
>titled his sermon "a sense of history" (see rel=nofollow target=_blank >href="http://columbus.ubf.org/2002mark/mark2002.htm">he
>re).
>
>By the way, the last sentence of the corresponding
>questionnaire is: "Why is it important for a Christian
>to have a sense of history?" One of the many
>inconsistencies in UBF, when they now declare that we
>simply should forget about the past.

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