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Date Posted: 17:12:54 10/20/04 Wed
Author: ChicagoXile
Subject: Re: Know any good studies of Romans 13?
In reply to: Brian Karcher 's message, "Re: Know any good studies of Romans 13?" on 15:36:01 10/20/04 Wed

>>So do you know any good studies of Romans 13 that you
>>can provide links to? I mean, besides Sam Lee's UBF
>>material or Sam Lee-inspired UBF material?
>
>Romans 13 is not about obeying spiritual leaders
>directly, but about obeying authorities. This is the
>heart of the issue.

...obeying authorities...such as civil authorities...which no former UBF member has any problem with since they are all law-abiding citizens as far as I know...which has little to do with the kinds of authority abuse in UBF and other abusive systems that is being discussed...so how is it "the heart of the issue"?

Sorry to have to do it to you a second time, but, good bye, Brian. The pointless continuation of this thread after you stated days ago: "To me, it is a foolish waste of time to engage in endless dogmatic debates over doctrine" and "Goodbye" is pushing relatively new threads into the forum archives due to the limits of the Voy forum software, limits that are already being pushed to the maximum by this and other forums.

We get the message. You are a UBF ideologue of the first order. UBF has no real serious problems to address. Paul Hong is a good shepherd and spiritual father. Samuel Lee, too. You can quote many Bible verses. Good for you.

Good bye.

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