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Subject: Re: Teller, you are so right Author: obitchecker [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Sun, May 03, 2009 1:25:44 In reply to: Mercedes ( It's not in my nature to deliberately hurt anyone. I use my big mouth as a weapon and a 'scare tactic') LOL 's message, "Teller, you are so right..." on Sun, May 03, 2009 11:58:03 "I would like to think that we don't have to go back to the days of the 'Dark Ages' or the Spanish Inquisition, to justify killing anyone...." We're not talking about KILLING anyone to save lives here. "....we 'think' may have knowledge about imminent danger to our country". You're changing the particular circumstance I laid out, in which we know with absolute or virtual certainty that the person knows. I agree, when he just "might" know, this is when it becomes problematic and we could head down a slippery slope. But that's not the example I gave. "We are better than that and we should have the intelligence to figure out what is going on in the world instead of being forced to accept Neo-Con agendas to rule our way of thinking." And if we have other intelligence OF COURSE we should use that before thinking of torture. I'm talking about the situations when we don't have other intelligence and have to act fast to save lives. "Instead of all this Torture being done to prove that Iraq was somehow involved with 9/11, certain individuals should have been looking for the Mastermind of 9/11--Osama bin Laden, who, to my knowledge is still alive and laughing his head off in his castle in his cave at how easily the US gets scared of any little threat. What ever happened to bringing that man to Justice? What happened to all that 'tough cowboy' talk about getting bin Laden? That seemed to have died out when our leader CHOSE to Invade Iraq." "The only thing this Pro TORTURE idea has brought us is more people hating us and our country and more people signing up to join Al Quaida and wanting to destroy us and our US laws." Mercedes, are you able to discuss issues in principle, without always resorting to US vs. THEM? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Obitchecker, I just saw this message before I logged off... Mercedes Sun, May 03, 2009 1:35:24 THOSE cases should be prosecuted. But they are not relevant to the situation I asked about. My question is not about what Bush did, didn't do, or should have done. It's about what WE SHOULD do, and not do. -- obitchecker, Sun, May 03, 2009 1:56:42 And let's get real. There is only one thing which will end Al Qaeda and other terrorist recruitment against us, and that is totally abandoning Israel. (NT) -- obitchecker, Sun, May 03, 2009 2:02:56