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Date Posted: 12:43:36 11/05/04 Fri
Author: No name
Author Host/IP: cache-rtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com / 152.163.100.195
Subject: always a runnerup

My daughter is always a runnerup or getting side awards not even on the registration and pulled from beauty or she deos not even make the runner up cut. She has one of thebest coaches top designer clothes money can buy and pictures are outstanding. Her modeling is excellent. She is a beautiful Afican American little girl. Its getting hard to explain to her that all her practicing deos not make a difference because she will not get a top title no matter how hard she try. Directors look at your system if you do not have any african amercan judges, Why not? If your winners are not african american even though you have girls competing, Check your system something is wrong. The 60's are gone we are competing.These girls are beautiful too! Ethnic and all.

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You have that right! (NT) -- No name, 18:38:52 11/12/04 Fri (cache-ntc-ac02.proxy.aol.com/198.81.26.71)
- You need to look at the pageant and see if they have beautiful girls who are of color as their Royalty. (NT) -- No name, 15:38:27 12/21/04 Tue (cache-rtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/152.163.100.195)
- REally! (NT) -- No name, 18:21:28 04/24/06 Mon (cache-ntc-ac09.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.138)
I don't know where you compete, but in the national glitz circut children of color seem to have an advantage they look different and it helps us. Don't play the race card and bring us all down my child is black and winning everywhere. (NT) -- No name, 01:34:10 12/22/04 Wed (66-79-31-235.dsl.coastalnow.net/66.79.31.235)
I GUESS NOW..... YOU WANT ALL THE PAGEANT WINS BECAUSE YOU ARE BLACK!!!! (NT) -- No name, 16:07:51 12/22/04 Wed (cache-rtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/152.163.100.195)
- there is a problem -- No name, 14:42:09 03/04/06 Sat (cache-dtc-af05.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.69)
EVERYONE thinks their daugter is BEAUTIFUL_ Whether they are CHINESE< CAUCASION or AFRICAN AMER"ICAN. WAKE UP_ if she is ALWAYS a runner up, maybe she is not as pretty as you THINK she is! Why is it ALWAYS a RACE thing? GIVE ME A BREAK! (NT) -- No name, 00:42:16 12/24/04 Fri (cache-mtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.195)
- ^^ said the white chick who "sees no racism" (NT) -- No name, 15:06:54 02/16/06 Thu (Toronto-HSE-ppp3720278.sympatico.ca/65.95.55.231)
Try Royal Essence. (NT) -- No name, 15:54:24 12/25/04 Sat (dialup-4.227.255.0.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net/4.227.255.0)
I agree -- No name, 08:29:06 12/27/04 Mon (cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.195)
Mayb e she is not as pretty as you think she is! Love is BLIND!!! (NT) -- No name, 15:15:25 12/28/04 Tue (cache-mtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.195)
OMG! HELLO DEARY!!!!!! Has YOUR daughter EVER been to Africa? Didn't think so, therefore, she's not more "Afraican American" than I am! I do so hate these PC terms. (NT) -- No name, 02:06:03 01/02/05 Sun (sdn-ap-004tnnashP0206.dialsprint.net/63.185.32.206)
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! You are right!!!! We are not in the 60's!!!! So stop using your "race card" and realize that we aren't all against you and your black DD!!!! I am so sick of hearing this...you know what it is? An excuse! Get over it!! It sounds to me like you are the only one in the 60's!!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 23:43:31 01/03/05 Mon (ip68-0-139-22.tc.ph.cox.net/68.0.139.22)
Have you people ever heard the term "Mexican American", "Asian American", "Native American", formally known as Indians? Some of you WHITE people need to get a CLUE! You have no right to make comments about something you will NEVER understand! It`s like trying to explain to a MAN what it`s like to be a WOMAN and give birth! I agree not all things are about race but some things STILL are. If your not BLACK, you`ll never get it!!! (NT) -- FEED-UP, 19:23:04 01/11/05 Tue (cache-rtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/152.163.100.195)
- Grow up! (NT) -- No name, 06:28:04 02/09/05 Wed (NoHost/63.164.145.198)
- right on -- No name, 13:58:43 02/15/05 Tue (adsl-66-124-241-129.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net/66.124.241.129)
- my grandparents comes from spain and I do not call myself Spanish american LMAO. I am AMERICAN. if someone asks me my ethnicity its spanish BUT I am an AMERICAN. (NT) -- No name, 13:04:57 03/12/05 Sat (24.231.206.248.bay.mi.chartermi.net/24.231.206.248)
What is THAT suppose to mean??? (NT) -- FEED- UP, 00:52:19 02/14/05 Mon (cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.195)
- It's not "FEED UP" it suppose to be FED UP ! Instead of pageants,get yourself a tutor and learn to S-P-E-L-L !!!!! (NT) -- No name, 15:14:03 02/17/06 Fri (24-119-93-85.cpe.cableone.net/24.119.93.85)
Royal Essence: -- No name, 13:57:23 02/15/05 Tue (adsl-66-124-241-129.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net/66.124.241.129)
I WILL NOT GIVE UP -- No name, 14:38:53 03/11/05 Fri (cache-rtc-ac02.proxy.aol.com/152.163.100.131)
- There are ethnic children than win! Look at Lauren Yee...she is all over the place! (NT) -- No name, 17:30:15 10/10/05 Mon (cache-rtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com/152.163.100.195)
Well when you look around, everyone seems to have their "rights" for this and their "rights" for that. Whining, moaning, groaning because they think they are discriminated against. Maybe you should join the one group in this country who truly has the very LEAST amount of rights left...please click in -- No name, 20:26:15 03/16/05 Wed (ip70-178-13-239.ma.dl.cox.net/70.178.13.239)
Try KIDS USA. They dont discriminate OR judge you from the outside. Its whats inside that counts! (NT) -- No name, 07:37:09 03/29/05 Tue (ip68-110-94-5.ph.ph.cox.net/68.110.94.5)
INTERNATIONAL MISS HAS 2 NATIONAL African American beauty queens -- HOW MANY Miss Americas have been African Americans?, 19:30:01 04/01/05 Fri (cache-mtc-ab08.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.72)
Talk about playing the race card!! White women whose daughters get beat my an ethnic child always LOVE to throw in the race card: "She only won because of the race issue"!!! I know because me daughter is biracial and beautiful and she beat a child whose mother thought her dd had it in the bag and we beat her off of facial beauty scores and she BASH BASHED BASHED AWAY!!!!!! To anyone who would listen. So please, who really loves to play the race card? (NT) -- No name, 23:05:13 04/01/05 Fri (cache-mtc-ac02.proxy.aol.com/64.12.116.131)
I know you are tired -- Jamie, 12:37:20 04/07/05 Thu (adsl-68-88-4-51.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net/68.88.4.51)
My daughter is african-american , I perfer white judges black judges seem to low-ball her. (NT) -- No name, 19:26:44 07/17/05 Sun (dialup-4.183.126.88.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net/4.183.126.88)
Black girls don't win beauty pageants -- Black Pageant Mom, 08:31:56 10/06/05 Thu (NoHost/64.107.153.120)
- Great Post! Black, White, Green, or Yellow, the best should win!! (NT) -- No name, 13:42:49 10/07/05 Fri (dialup-4.88.69.104.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net/4.88.69.104)
afican american kid -- No name, 16:53:03 02/16/06 Thu (66-214-178-120.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com/66.214.178.120)
so you are saying that if there were black judges there your daughter would win??? why?? wouldn't that make it rigged? is that what you want to teach your daughter? (NT) -- No name, 06:27:31 02/17/06 Fri (24-181-126-33.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com/24.181.126.33)
Please make a change -- No name, 13:45:01 03/04/06 Sat (cache-dtc-af05.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.69)
Give me a break. So tired of people crying "racism". I have seen children of all races win at pageants, no matter who the judges were! My daughter has been judged by black judges and they have sometimes been her highest scorers and she is blonde hair with blue eyes! Thanfully, most judges do not show favoritism of race, so you saying you wish there were black judges is ridiculous!! (NT) -- No name, 05:37:57 03/06/06 Mon (cache-dtc-af05.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.69)
- Want to talk about racism, then you need to look in the mirror. Whites are more discriminated against these days! America has the Miss America pageant, open to all races and all races have won at some point. Then, not long after the Miss America pageant, there is the Black Miss America pageant where only blacks can compete!!! What is the deal with that. If we were to have the White Miss America pageant, we would be called racist, but it's okay to have the Black Miss America pageant????? Sounds like the racists are the ones who cry racism all of the time. Look in the mirror lady!!! (NT) -- No name, 05:39:47 03/06/06 Mon (cache-dtc-af05.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.69)
  - They also have BET on Cable - Black Entertainment Television, but if we have a WET - White Enteratinment Television, the poop would hit the fan. Then you have the NAACP award show, but if we have a NAAWP, then it racist. The list goes on and on. (NT) -- No name, 09:01:18 05/05/06 Fri (c-67-162-234-27.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/67.162.234.27)
  - Dont forget the African American College Fund. Lets see a white kid get that one. (NT) -- No name, 15:28:49 05/10/06 Wed (ext-1-7.ghc.org/192.254.1.7)
    - I hate stupid psosts like these! There is not "WET" because when you turn on the tv there are ALMOST ALWAYS whites on! There is no "white" funding because you have an advantage! (NT) -- No name, 14:00:06 05/18/06 Thu (cache-rtc-ad09.proxy.aol.com/152.163.100.203)
    - Oh and forgot to add "BET" is not only owned by blacks but WHITES too so go talk to them! (NT) -- No name, 14:00:57 05/18/06 Thu (cache-rtc-ad09.proxy.aol.com/152.163.100.203)
Have you tried buying the video and having her coach watch it? We did that once and it changed everything. What my dd does onstage and what she does offstage are not always the same thing. (NT) -- No name, 09:00:24 05/09/06 Tue (ext-1-7.ghc.org/192.254.1.7)