What is so sad in this is Ellerman has done a lot of damage to the organziation and cost them things that will take a long time to "fix" --he flew through there like the devil himself and then resigns --leaving the PRCA holding the bag full of crap he initiated---so much unneccessary stuff. He tried to fix what wasn't broken and made worse what was---jail is too good for him. And I hope the PRCA learned their lesson with this guy and can go on another 50 years without making that mistake again! -- RODEO RAMBLINGS

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Date Posted: 08:32:25 02/21/07 Wed
Author: Julie
Subject: What is so sad in this is Ellerman has done a lot of damage to the organziation and cost them things that will take a long time to "fix" --he flew through there like the devil himself and then resigns --leaving the PRCA holding the bag full of crap he initiated---so much unneccessary stuff. He tried to fix what wasn't broken and made worse what was---jail is too good for him. And I hope the PRCA learned their lesson with this guy and can go on another 50 years without making that mistake again!
In reply to: Hap 's message, "How long can mr1 and a couple of others support this guy?" on 06:47:29 02/17/07 Sat

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Did any of you feel that Tom F. was just a puppet and now that the puppeteer is gone he might as well be boxed up and put away? Looks like that happened in a hurry and some of the problems that remain are the there are still puppets on the board and most of the rest are only self serving. Not good, but that's kinda how I see it. Wish I was wrong. (NT) -- Hap, 10:37:15 02/22/07 Thu
- Hap, I don't see it exactly the same way. Of course I am not as close to the subject as you. Basically the PRCA is nothing more than a nationwide Co-Op of cowboys. That's all it was ever supposed to be in the founders minds. Co-Op gins, grain facilities, Rural Electric and Water cooperatives all go through these things. PBR hasn't and in my judgement it is because fewer people 'own' the PBR. Cooperatives are great tools but they can not, do not and likely never will run as smoothly as a business that 'somebody' owns. (NT) -- ZD, 10:54:18 02/22/07 Thu
  - So you're saying that it can't be expected to have anybody but a bunch of "yes men" answering to their fearless leader, no matter who that leader is? Meanwhile, thousands of members of this co-op are voiceless? (NT) -- Hap, 11:02:51 02/22/07 Thu
    - I would say the biggest percentage of the cowboys are voiceless. Always have been. Everybody has a different agenda as to what they want according to how they are rodeoing. The top guys run it the majority of the time. As a former contract act, I can tell you how lousy some of the stock contractors and committee people are out there. Very few of them word was any good. To be fair, I have known a bunch of contestants the same way plus contract act people. Guess I was brought up different. I didn't come from a cut throat world and treated people different. But I think any big number business or organization is probably the same way as rodeo when you get inside the big circle. (NT) -- Varmit, 12:54:34 02/22/07 Thu

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