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Date Posted: 08:13:37 04/24/02 Wed
Author: Alan Yngve
Subject: Re: Alpha Russian decisions (Alpha-0)
In reply to: Victor 's message, "Re: Alpha Russian decisions (Alpha-0)" on 07:42:32 04/24/02 Wed

>I've got a beginner's defensive fire/los sight
>question for everyone. In one of my plays yesterday I
>decided that the Russians should cover as wide a swath
>of the J-P hexes as possible to try and divide the
>German efforts on two separate fronts (i.e. try and
>come from the west with some forces to exit through P
>and with the other forces hit the J exit. The
>strategy turned out very poorly for the Russians
>because I had to choose which side would have their
>only leader necessary for rallying. (I can give
>details of this later and it seems to fit this
>thread).

Very relevant to the thread. More on this later, perhaps?

>So my question is this. If separate units
>following differing paths pass through one common hex
>on their movement phase can you use defensive fire at
>that hex to send back all units that passed through
>it, even if the timing was such that they would have
>entered and exited the hex at different times?

Yes. The necessary mechanics of movement are unit by unit (strictly speaking, a stack of three squads (no leader) would not move together ... but each squad could be moved the same way, in sequence. [But for convenience we all move them together, only a problem when you get to MINES (rule 55, much later).]

Rule 16.1 is the critical one. With infantry, when taking defensive fire shots the non-moving player may "return" any/all units that moved through a hex to a specific target hex to be fired upon. No limit to how many squads might have moved through the hex. First note: use the SL "track" counters to help you remember which squads moved through a potential target hex. Second note: none of us ACTUALLY return the squads to the target hex during defensive fire. As long as you can identify which ones moved through the hex you can leave it at that until a targetted squad actually breaks (then it is moved from its ending hex to the target hex) or is KIA (removed from its ending hex). Only real complication is when the targeted squad is gaining the extra leader movement and the accompanying leader breaks and the squad doesn't.

>Or does 19.3 dictate that the shot be called DURING the
>movement phase and therefore only one squad at a time
>(or stacked move) can be addressed by defensive fire?

This is the procedure for firing on vehicles (see rule 16.7), but not for infantry.

In effect, through this procedure the non-moving player is given the opportunity to see ALL of the potential targets (since all the infantry is really moving aat the same time) before they must choose their preferred target.

-- Alan

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