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Date Posted: 09:05:18 01/30/04 Fri
Author: hmm
Subject: Re: LOOK LOOK
In reply to: 's message, "LOOK LOOK" on 09:38:07 09/07/02 Sat

>Subject: LETS MAKE A LIST OF THE BUSINESSES THAT T/M
>"RUN"
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>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 06:49:14 09/07/02 Sat
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>TROY AND MICHAEL RUN ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES EITHER
>HANDS ON OR THROUGH A 2ND PARTY.
>
>2 PAGEANTS
>GLAMOUR DOLLS
>FABULOUS FACES
>
>HAIR AND MAKEUP
>
>PHOTOGRAPHY
>
>CLOTHING THROUGH
>CHRISTINA'S (TINA MARSHALL)
>
>SWIMSUITS THROUGH
>SANDI HENRY
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>FALLS AND HAIRPIECES
>
>TANNING THROUGH
>LORI FRANKLIN
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>Replies:
>ho ho ho he he he - NOW WE KNOW WHY THOSE MOM'S HAVE
>LESS THAN PRETTY KIDS WHO WIN PAGEANTS. THAT EXPLAINS
>HOW SOME OF THEM WON FF AND GD.....NOW I SEE, HA HA HA
>HA HA (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:16:03 09/07/02 Sat
>Let's list all Michael Butlers businesses: Hair and
>makeup, photography, don't forget coaching with or
>without Shane, also designed clothes, not to mention
>"running or should I say owning" pageants from behind
>the scene! This came from S & M OWN mouth. I am a
>former client they assured me my kid would win if I
>went because someone was having the pageant for them.
>YOu know it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
>out besides Butler who is always on here
>bashing..let's see, have daughters always beat by
>Hannah.... (NT) -- Anonymous, 07:53:21 09/07/02 Sat
>MOST ALL THE PROBLEMS IN PAGEANTS HAVE BEEN CREATED BY
>THESE FOUR 'GUYS'. Now what we have here are 4 men who
>have egos bigger than well......anyway, lol, they
>think they are something. They are haughty and
>arrogrant if anyone dares to try to make waves in
>their all consuming businesses. If these guys are all
>tied up with the FF and MDD pageant systems, THE BEST
>THING TO DO IS NOT SUPPORT EITHER ONE OF THEM. We all
>know that t/m's suck ups will be at theirs and those
>that Butler control will be at MDD, now why would any
>other dumb smuck want to go and pay for their kids and
>clients to win. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:08:31 09/07/02
>Sat
>EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE KIDS OWNED BY THESE ABOVE
>LISTED BUSINESS PARTNERS HAVE WON BIG TITLES AND BOTH
>FF AND GD. NOW IF THAT ISN'T CLEAR TO YOU DUMMIES,
>NOTHING ELSE IS. THAT IS THE BIGGEST COI IN PAGEANTS.
>WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF SYSTEM FF
>AND GD ARE. NOTHING IF YOU GOT A BRAIN. (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:12:44 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: I HAVE TO AGREE ON ALOT OF THAT. DH AND JM ARE NOT
>AT ALL PRETTY AND YET THEY HAVE MANAGED TO WIN BIG
>GRANDS AT THE PAGEANTS T/M HAVE IN THEIR POCKETS.
>HANNA D LOOKS GOOD ON STAGE AFTER ALL THE THICK
>PANCAKE MAKEUP FAKE LASHES AND PAINTES ON FEATURES BUT
>CLOSE UP WITHOUT ALL THE MAKEUP THE CHILD IS DOWNRIGHT
>HOMELY. I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT ITS TRUE. (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:20:51 09/07/02 Sat
>This is the way it is. These kids that are up the
>rears of T/M can't win any other way. Also, they ONLY
>win at pageants where the gurus control. They go back
>to the same ones every year and get their wins. NONE
>of their business partners clients can venture to any
>other pageant and do any good. Few of their clients
>can go elsewhere and win either. imho (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:29:29 09/07/02 Sat
>
>
>Subject: ANY PREDICTIONS FOR NE FABULOUS FACES?
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>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 06:12:45 09/07/02 Sat
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>Replies:
>ALOT OF KIDS MADE UP TO LOOK LIKE DRAG QUEENS WHO HAVE
>MAMAS WHO ARE WILLING TO SUCK GURU BUTT TO GET THEM
>SHABBY WINS THAT NOONE RESPECTS. LOL (NT) --
>Anonymous, 06:16:51 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: I thought they wanted more natural looks for this
>pageant? (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:43:10 09/07/02 Sat
>They tell you that but it is BULLSHIT. All the winners
>are big pros faked up just like they are at GD. WHAT
>about the fact they judge their own pageant don't you
>understand? It is all about their clients and ALL
>their clients are made up heavy and have all the fake
>hair, etc. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:14:54 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: Can anyone please make real predictions on this
>pageant and not just vent against T/M! (NT) --
>Anonymous, 08:24:10 09/07/02 Sat
>IF THEY WERE NOT SUCH JERKS, IT WOULD NOT BE
>HAPPENING. HERE IS A PREDICTION FOR YOU....ALL THE
>WINNERS WILL BE THEIR BUSINESS PARTNERS KIDS, BEST
>FRIENDS KIDS, CLIENTS KIDS AND THE PEOPLE HAVE MONEY
>THAT THEY WANT TO BE THEIR CLIENTS WILL ALLLLLLL WIN.
>IT IS ALWAYS THAT WAY. THEY JUDGE THEIR OWN PAGEANT,
>THAT SAYS IT ALL. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:25:40 09/07/02
>Sat
>
>
>Subject: Mystical Dreams vs. FF
>
>
>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 07:30:05 09/07/02 Sat
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>Has anybody bothered to call Toni O. yet and tell her
>what she's getting herself into with this MD director?
>The director got Toni hook, line&sinker by giving
>Toni's kid a grand supreme in one of her many photo
>contests to ensure that Toni would come...also gave
>grand supreme entries to some of Toni's other kids,
>including CF to make sure the kid didn't even go back
>and crown at FF and came to her pageant instead. The
>woman has a ran a heavy line of crock by Toni telling
>Toni she already has 30 paid entries in her hand and
>that is she is giving the money no matter what and
>Toni has fallen for it......has anybody bothered to
>tell Toni how involved Michael Butler is in this thing
>and that once Linda gets Toni and her kids there and
>she gets their money, they are ALL getting screwed???
>
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>Replies:
>Well, people WARNED THO about getting involved with FF
>last year and their her kid and her favorties clients
>got screwed. She did not listen about T and M, even
>tho she KNEW what they were capable of. I doubt she
>will listen about this either. FF is far more
>political because t/m control more judges and people
>than BUTLER, imo. (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:10:46 09/07/02
>Sat
>At least the winners Toni did have at FF last year GOT
>their $. No way will this lady pay this $. Her entire
>pageant was planned with Michael Butler to hurt FF.
>She has given every single one of Toni's major clients
>a free entry to this pageant, and many more free
>entries as well, and claiming she has 30 paid entries
>in hand. I just hate to see all these kids get
>screwed. The woman will never be able to pay her
>money. Would love to see some initials of these
>supposed 30 "paid" entries she has! (NT) --
>Subject: On a post below, a poster tells about the
>fall business that Lopez started.
>
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>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 06:20:16 09/07/02 Sat
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>They posted that Troy and Michael put up a banner on
>the Bravo making fun of Farrah's Falls. I think that
>is the dirtiest thing I have ever heard of. They were
>big buddies and Farah's mom was SOOOOOOOO into them.
>The posts says that they were made because she started
>that business. The NOW have a fall business and the
>poster said they were so greedy they wanted that too,
>along with their other 6 or 7 spin off COI businesses.
>They have got to be the most selfish people I have
>heard of. They want it all. I wish I could have seen
>the banner they put up making fun of her fall
>business. But that is the way they are. They can't
>stand for anyone to have ANYTHING but them. What did
>the banner say? I would like to hear more about this,
>it is one of the tackier things they have done,
>besides bashing kids on the internet because they were
>mad at their parents.
>
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>Replies:
>Re: It is not F. Lopez. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:26:30
>09/07/02 Sat
>THEN WHO IS F'S MOM. THEY ALSO HAD A FALLING OUT WITH
>FL AND HER MOM OVER SOMETHING. (NT) -- Anonymous,
>06:41:43 09/07/02 Sat
>Re: Lopez switched to Toni O for h/m. that was what
>got them hating on her. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:44:22
>09/07/02 Sat
>HERE IS THE POST BELOW>>>> T/M do not give a damn if
>she awards the money or not. What they do care about
>is loosing 50 or more contestants in their own
>pageants. Don't you get they do not care about YOU or
>your kid, all they care about is their wallet !
>Remember when F's mom started selling falls and they
>had a banner made ridiculing her ? I was so shocked.
>With 2 pageants and a photography business, you'd
>think they could leave the hair fall business to
>someone else but noooooooo !! (NT) -- Anonymous,
>06:26:34 09/07/02 Sat
>
>
>Subject: MDD vs FF
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>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 06:55:05 09/06/02 Fri
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>Well I intended to go to FF in the beginning but I've
>definitely changed my mind.
>T&M have been bashing in every single possible way
>since MDD started - not only did they call the
>director and THREATENED her, but they bashed H/M
>coming, kids coming, gosh they even bashed the HOTEL
>price !!
>How can adults go that low ? And the worse is they
>must think we are so damn stupid and no see through
>them.
>
>So... we're headed to MDD instead. Butler is supposed
>to "run the show". He was supposed to run quite a
>number of pageants this year (including some he didnt
>even come to). He was supposed to run ED last year -
>but guess who won a Supreme and 8 door titles ? It
>wasn't LB ! LOL.
>
>I just wish all of the directors would stop taking us
>for fools and let us make our own decisions. T/M sure
>showed their true faces these past few months and I
>for one am NOT liking them.
>
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>T/M are egotistical, nasty, and twofaced creeps. They
>bash anyone and everyone that is not tied in with them
>and their systems. They have been into wars with every
>other big name h/m person and are in wars with parents
>that leave them for someone better. They showed their
>true colors years ago when the bashed kids all over
>the internet and spit in the face of the woman holding
>her child. The reason they spit on her was because she
>had the guts to call their pageant systems what they
>are which is hi-priced POLITICAL TRASH.. imho (NT) --
>Anonymous, 07:15:31 09/06/02 Fri
>Amen Sister !!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:49:30 09/06/02
>Fri
>Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the
>same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo
>worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please
>go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will
>got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those
>gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:09
>09/06/02 Fri
>Please go to MDD........I don't think I can be in the
>same room much less hotel with people who are sooooooo
>worried over a CHILDRENS beauty pageant!! Please
>go,go, go to MDD and shut the HELL up!!!!!!! I will
>got to faces and bring back hopefully one of those
>gorgeous crowns!!!! (NT) -- Anonymous, 08:55:10
>09/06/02 Fri
>LOL if you're not "worried" then what are you doing
>here ? Pot calling the kettle black much !! (NT) --
>Anonymous, 09:04:07 09/06/02 Fri
>THEN YOU BETTER HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THAT STINKY GURU
>SH** ALL OVER YOUR NOSE AND FACE. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
>IT TAKES TO WIN FF AND NO CROWN IS WORTH THE KIND OF
>STINKY THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO TO WIN AN FF PAGEANT.
>PARTICULARLY WHEN THE DAMN DIRECTOR YOU SUCK BUTT WITH
>JUDGES THEIR OWN PAGEANT. ROTFLMAO (NT) -- Anonymous,
>09:34:36 09/06/02 Fri
>If you know all, please tell who is going to win in
>the 0-4 at faces. (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:12:21 09/06/02
>Fri
>Let me add that I know it is a 0-5 grand, but give me
>winners in each age group as well as the 0-5 grand.
>Convince me BABY! (NT) -- Anonymous, 11:20:00 09/06/02
>Fri
>You'll have to call TM they have the winners list at
>their house. If you BABY them enough maybe they'll
>share it with you BABY. (NT) -- Anonymous, 13:16:40
>09/06/02 Fri
>You have to promise to become a big client of their
>and let them rule you and your child, tell you where
>to go and tell you what to spend. THEN they will give
>you a crown in return. That is how you win FF or GD,
>SUCK BABY SUCK. (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:06:55 09/07/02
>Sat
>
>
>Subject: Here is some truthfulness about the guru
>directors who are so worried about their pageant. If
>they were not worried, they would not have called
>their soldiers out to post for them on any board where
>they are being exposed.
>
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>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 16:39:30 09/06/02 Fri
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>They start out with all the sugarcoated lies then they
>move on to snare the big money from anyone who is
>willing to pay. After you pay in several thousand
>dollars, you begin to see that that money is going for
>their child and their wins. If you happen to compete
>in the same supreme group, you start noticing a
>tearing down of your child in suttle ways. This
>happens if they are scared your child might win out.
>They make fun of them in underhanded tacky ways and
>someone who has a brain begins to see the method they
>use. They try to brainwash you that THEIR child is
>better than everyone else and that you have to come in
>second place or suffer the consequences. I guess some
>people who don't have a child in their age group or
>supreme group might last longer than those who do. It
>also depends on how much money you got and how long
>they can suck you dry and you not figure it out. A
>year would be about right because that is about 4 or 5
>pageants and that is where the true colors start
>showing after seeing their displays or arrogance and
>spitefulness.
>
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>Replies:
>This post describes (NT) -- Anonymous, 05:59:22
>09/07/02 Sat
>Re: This post describes T AND M like it was written
>for them. rotflmao, cuz I am sure it was. LOL LOL LOL
>LOL (NT) -- Anonymous, 06:00:08 09/07/02 Sat
>
>
>Subject: This post is from a click in below in another
>post. You have the LB mixed up with the HD kid.
>Neither one is anything but a plain looking kid until
>their daddies put tons of makeup and false hair all
>over their head. Six of one and half dozen of the
>other. But I agree with your point that a crown means
>nothing if it is a fixed win. But some parents don't
>care. They just want a crown so they can blast this
>made up little kids photo all over BRAVO bragging
>about NOTHING.
>
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>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 05:55:43 09/07/02 Sat
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>I TOTALLY AGREE. PAGEANTS ARE NOW RUINED WITH THE
>CHAOS AND THE LIKES OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS. WHO THE HELL
>CARES TO WIN A PAGEANT IF IT'S ALREADY FIXED? WHAT
>DOES THAT CROWN STAND FOR? IT STANDS FOR MY MOMMY PAID
>LOTS OF MONEY FOR THAT PIECE OF METAL. WHAT DO THE
>CHILDREN GET FROM THAT? WILL WINNING THIS CERTAIN
>PAGEANT HELP THIS CHILD IN ANYWAY TO HELP HER BECOME A
>BETTER PERSON IN LIFE OR ADVANCE HER MODELING? ALL
>THIS BICKERING, BITCHING, AND BASHING, LIEING,
>CHEATING, AND STEALING HAS MADE PAGEANTS LOOK VERY BAD
>AND PEOPLE WHO COULD CARE LESS WHAT T/M THINK OR
>ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER WILL NOT BUY INTO IT. I
>DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE HELL T/M ARE. ARE THEY THE GAY
>GUYS WITH LESLIE BUTLER WHO HAS MESSED UP TEETH, BUT
>STILL WINS BEAUTY PAGEANTS? I ONLY KNOW THIS BECAUSE
>OF A SHOW ON HBO. BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT. I DO LIKE
>READING THIS BOARD. IT'S ACTUALLY FUNNY THAT ADULTS
>REALLY ACT THIS WAY. I JUST HOPE THEY DON'T ACT OR
>TALK THIS WAY AROUND THE CHILDREN. REMEMBER THEM?
>
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>Subject: Some thoughts posted to the guru guys. This
>was on another board. It is unbelievable how a useless
>crown can make people become brainless cult followers.
>
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>Author:
>Anonymous
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>Date Posted: 16:47:11 09/06/02 Fri
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>I have a prediction to make for you. Within one year
>you will be scratching your ass to get money to pay
>for all the wonderful things you desire.You are a
>CANCER that has ate away at most of the pageants
>especially in the south. I know a lot of directors
>that wish the had never seen either one of you. You
>have done everything you can do to make them completly
>unfair. You were the first to not give scoresheets,
>and the rest followed in just a few years. You are the
>first to create circut judges. Before directors got
>their own judges. You created circut judges because
>you knew them all. They started with you. You started
>all this digital photos, because you cant shoot a
>decent photo without it being digital. You have
>cheated, in everyway possible and made pageants a
>mockery in everyway. No wonder most of the public
>think pageants are for the insane. I a time when
>pageants need to put their best foot forward you offer
>a satans cloven hoof to show the world. ALL YOU
>DIRECTORS that wonder what is happening to pageants
>only have to look at the past six years to see what is
>wrong. We used to have fine upstanding directors that
>cared what people did at their pageants because it
>might tarnish their image of being wholesome for
>children, but now we have the dredge of society runing
>most of our pageants and they dont care what anyone
>thinks as long as the money pours in. They think they
>are too big to be touched. Some day some of the
>parents of these children will open their eyes and do
>something to save whats left of the pageant world and
>bring some honor to holding a title. Theres nothing to
>be proud of now when you win, even if by chance you
>won honestly. You can blame a lot of people on these
>boards and lord knows there are plenty. You would like
>to convince everyone of your potential clients that
>just a few people are complaining, let me tell you
>that there is no way just a few people could do this
>amount of complaining and everyone knows that. You
>see, every year you add more and more enemys and
>pretty soon you have enough to tell the world about
>all your lies. You have caused a lot of people to go
>out of business and told them you would do so when
>they crossed you. You have caused a lot more to quit
>pageants because they weren't strong enough to fight
>you and win. Some day all these people might get
>together and be your worst nightmare. Wouldn't that be
>a hoot? Anyway CANCER is what you are because you have
>ate the heart out of pageants.
>
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>They want to rule everyone. The threaten their clients
>with not doing their h/m again if they don't go where
>they tell them.. Many of their clients have told the
>freakos to GO TO HELL. They will go where they want
>to. Then the mean ass freakos go around calling those
>people's kids UGLY. They are trash of the pageant
>world. imho (NT) -- Anonymous, 17:00:36 09/06/02 Fri
>WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME OF T/M'S BRAINLESS SOLDIERS ON
>THIS BOARD TRYING TO RUN DAMAGE CONTROL. rotflmao (NT)
>-- Anonymous, 17:03:47 09/06/02 Fri
>Re: WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME OF T/M'S BRAINLESS SOLDIERS
>ON THIS BOARD TRYING TO RUN DAMAGE CONTROL. rotflmao
>(NT) -- Anonymous, 17:12:09 09/06/02 Fri
>Re: Some thoughts posted to the guru guys. This was on
>another board. It is unbelievable how a useless crown
>can make people become brainless cult followers. --
>Anonymous, 05:15:10 09/07/02 Sat

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