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Date Posted: 06:22:08 01/10/03 Fri
Author: King Fight
Subject: SU有感...
做鬙b年SU, 都曾聽過很多對本人、又或是學生會的意見，有好有壞...... ，不時我也會問自己，究竟我是否稱職呢？
這年，即第三屆的學生會又是否一道良好的溝通橋樑呢？能否照顧到同學的須要？顧及校方的想法？
敢問各位有何意見? 是罵是讚，我也希望聽多一點，知多一些...
勞煩勞煩
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Re: SU有感... -- one people in form 4, 07:20:16 01/10/03 Fri
i am One原本隆門陣支持者, although i support Micheal, but i think that you have more experience than him. This year, SU have many activity, and the 架構also very perfect. Bless you can continoue your good job. ALL OIL!!
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Re: SU有感... -- old boy---ken lee, 08:13:46 01/10/03 Fri
>做鬙b年SU,
>都曾聽過很多對本人、又或是學生會的意見，有好有壞......
>，不時我也會問自己，究竟我是否稱職呢？
>這年，即第三屆的學生會又是否一道良好的溝通橋樑呢？能否?>蚥U到同學的須要？顧及校方的想法？
>
>敢問各位有何意見?
(my english is poor , hope you will understand.)
are you willing to do something to help sfxc....?
if yes, please think a system to help sfxc's library.
because the books in school library were always stolen by schoolmate.
why i have this suggestion?
because a old boy told me that when school buy new books for a day only, schoolmate will steal it.....
小說 is the most popular, then is old book about A-level Arts subject........
^.^ thankyou.......
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Re: SU有感... -- King Fight, 09:29:44 01/10/03 Fri
well, honestly, I do sometimes have doubts about the system of library... I know that the library is buying new books from time to time, but I can't really find them sometimes...
perhaps the promotion is not enough, or perhaps I don't know much about library.
I won't give any comment at this moment, but I will ask its chairman or other relavant people in due course.
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失書問題 -- Librarian, 02:38:00 01/12/03 Sun
對於閣下的問題，我亦想在此作一些回應：
我們今年已有大量書籍推出，亦已盡量提高服務質素，奈何失書的問題非我們所能控制。部份同學都有空堂，圖書館不能謝絕他們進入，那時正是圖書館的真空期。至於圖書館購剛買新書而未推出，一日就不見了，那有幾個可能：
1. 那些書被收起作定期新書展出之同
2. 被老師們借去看了
若是推出了，則可能是：
1. 那些書被同學閱後誤作舊書上了架
2. 被同學們 “借”去看了
在很多時候，我們都不能長時間派人搜查同學的校褸書籍等。在開學時曾有管理員希望校長購置一部防盜機，但校長認為濟記的學生是有自律的精神，我們不能這樣假定他們的行為。而圖書館另希望校長把書櫃與書台分開間隔，以便管理做功課及看書的人流，奈何工程未能在本年度進行。
很多時對於失書問題，圖書館都想盡辦法去解決，我們的確有部分責任，但是那與圖書館的系統不能相提並論，因為我們可以做的，只是多購新書，多宣傳以及在管理員的質素上對症下藥，對於失書，多是與某部分同學們的品格有關。對於練習書的問題，由於那些書多是其他老師購買的，所以練習書的數量將因為失竊問題而減少了。
最後，我對於本年度的圖書館的確有一定的憧憬，我亦相信圖書館在本年度已作過不少改變，但是同學們又能否做到自律呢？
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Re: 唔罵偷書賊卻罵管理不善天理何在!! -- 顛倒黑白, 05:17:22 01/12/03 Sun
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Re: 失書問題 -- The KING who FIGHT, 05:27:18 01/12/03 Sun
Of course, the main reason for the lost of books is due to the students who "commit the crime", but what I think is that the managing parties do have some responsibilities on that, right?
I do agree with what the message of "librarian", so what actions the library is going to take in order to solve the problems?
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2樓圖書角 (希望校方正視) -- 偷書問題, 09:52:06 01/13/03 Mon
>其實二樓的圖書角亦有偷書問題, 有同學更自私得已偷了十多本書回家.
>因為那些圖書原意是讓大家取閱來學習一些課外知識,卻被一些自私的同學剝削了閱讀的機會,所以懇請校方能對此問題作出處理, 以下是本人的一些建議:
>1. 可否派人"看守"著那些圖書?
>2. 可否勸喻一下學生不要偷書?
>為了各位同學著想, 希望以上問題盡早改善
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Re: 2樓圖書角 (希望校方正視) -- F.3人, 08:06:16 01/14/03 Tue
>>同意!我都有見過人偷!
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Mobile Phones -- The KING who FIGHT, 05:05:57 01/13/03 Mon
In order to know more about students' opinions on bringing mobile phones to school, we are going to distribute a questionairre to each of the students in due course.
Actually, before the disstribution of questionairres, I wanna take this opportunity to ask you, how do you think about bringing mobile phones to school?
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Re: 好假 -- Five, 05:13:27 01/13/03 Mon
今日，SU announcement 內容好假；甚麼「經SU努力和St. John 治商，取得更大優惠」，聽到都肉麻...
其實有去過St. John或 Red Cross 讀的人都知道有一個三十小時的成人急救訓練課程，合格後証書有效期為三年，價錢二百二；個人申請者要在指定地點上課，但如果團體足夠二十人，他們可以派人到來授課.
而那基本急救訓練課程，就甚為無用，因為收二百二，但得六小時，而且有效期只有一年.
問題就在這堙ASU之前推廣了基本急救訓練課程，但受熱心同學指正，改用成人急救訓練課程，實在要多得他們，要不然同學就報了認受性較低的課程了，可惜他們無在宣佈中提及.
反而把這次的變動看成 SU bargin 到的大優惠，就如生果方向報的「濟記SU 為同學努力爭取五倍優惠」；其實SU 所做的只是打 2524 4888, 再問清楚：「資助學校如果有二十位學生參加成人急救訓練課程，你們能夠派人來上課?」,他們又會好老馮咁講一句Of course yes.
就係咁，就叫好努力；就係咁，就叫做洽商;
如果，SU 的人會上網，而有咁上下閱讀理解能力，就連努力洽商也不用了...(有關St. John 的詳情：http://www.stjohn.org.hk/chinese/)
其實推廣錯誤和努力治商只差一線，請SU 下次唔好咁吹噓自己，希望你們踏踏實實...
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Re: 好假 -- SU committee, 05:43:53 01/13/03 Mon
我不得不承認本人缺乏這方面的知識，起初在打了電話給St.John後得到了六小時急救班的詳情，之後本人再上http://www.stjohn.org.hk/chinese/level2-3.html#的成人心肺復甦法訓練課程 (CPR) 看見那些資料和St.John職員所給我相同。因此本人就決定推行這次的急救課程。
但當那熱心的同學告訴本人有一個更好的課程時，本人己經立即聯略 St.John宣問有關詳情及立即決定取消原有的六小時課程，並推行那三十小時的課程。我們已作出最大的努力去補救我們的過失。
正如 Five你的說話，得確是得到那位熱心同學指正後，我們才知道自己找了一個實用性低的課程。但是本人已向那熱心人提及要不要在今天的宣傳奡ㄓ峊L，但他說不需要，因此本人才沒有將這事說出來。在這堙A我真是要多謝那位熱心人。
最後引用Five的留言，『資助學校如果有二十位學生參加成人急救訓練課程，你們能夠派人來上課?』, 他們又會好老馮咁講一句Of course yes.
就係咁，就叫好努力；就係咁，就叫做洽商; 』
無錯這不能算得上是洽商，但是我們已盡了力去尋找最好的課程給大家，問題是我們對於這方面的認知略為不足，我承諾在下一次推行同類型的活動時我將會盡力進行資料搜集。
無疑，你可能想到有更多的字眼可以代替洽商這一詞。但是我覺得在宣傳時用一些略為誇大的字眼也是難免的，我們保證日後會避免用這些字眼。
新的急救班報名費是$220，但是在今天的宣傳塈琱w提及同學可以選擇性去購買急救手冊和繃帶包。
如果我今天的宣傳內容令到同學感到有誤導的話，我亦希望這次機會向各位同學致歉。
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Re: 好假 -- Five, 06:58:47 01/13/03 Mon
我都明白你「盡了力」，而且已是「最大的努力」..
你自己都講六小時課程是你們的過失，就唔好講到好似搵到大著數咁.
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Re: 好假 -- 路人乙, 08:05:17 01/13/03 Mon
哥仔既然你知道有三十個鐘的急救班，你也知道有熱心人的出現，為何你不是那位熱心人呀？為何現在才出聲呢？你的熱心熱在那塈r？
無可否認，第一個課程實在是廢了少少，但他們也立即進行補救啦！我都認為學生會今次的確是吹噓了少少，你指出他們的錯是好事，但我覺得你為何老是執著在洽商這一詞呢？？難道你唯恐天下不亂？
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算啦…… -- 人一個, 08:32:52 01/13/03 Mon
同意同意。
雖然學生會宣傳有吹噓成份的確唔係咁好，但係我當時聽都幾好呀，搞到好有氣氛，吸引倒大家注意，完全達到宣傳效果。就算而家知道佢地只不過係少少誇大之後，又覺得唔係十分唔妥。
佢地聽倒人意見後即刻去補救，搵番個更合適o既課程，咁唔係已經證明左呢個仍然係一個好o既學生會咩？
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