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Re: Topic 1 -- julie, 08:41:02 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
hey!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Meaghan Giangregorio, 08:45:04 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
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Re: Topic 1 -- julie, 09:22:15 02/11/02 Mon
>>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
way to put it meaghan
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Re: Topic 1 -- Meaghan Giangregorio, 08:45:59 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
One event that we should pay attention to is
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Re: Topic 1 -- Kristen Berard, 08:47:32 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
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Re: Topic 1 -- Meaghan Giangregorio, 08:50:54 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
One event that we should have paid attention was when the Assyrians captured about 6,000 hebrews and put them into to slavery. If we had taken that into concideration then we could have prevented the slavery issues that errupted with the African Americans taken from their native home of Africa.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Colin Martin, 08:51:11 02/11/02 Mon
The Assyerians used terror as a politicle weapon, If we had paid more attention to what they would do, perhaps that we would have been more aware for the 9/11 tragedy. We had no idea at all that we would be attacked. If we were ready than perhaps the tragedy could have been avoided.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Dave, 09:17:02 02/11/02 Mon
Hello Colin my son, good to chat with you once again. It seems as though our opinions are very similar. Although I am not one to accuse, the similarities between our opinions are uncanny.
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Re: Topic 1 -- jean, 09:20:12 02/11/02 Mon
>The Assyerians used terror as a politicle weapon, If
>we had paid more attention to what they would do,
>perhaps that we would have been more aware for the
>9/11 tragedy. We had no idea at all that we would be
>attacked. If we were ready than perhaps the tragedy
>could have been avoided.
way to go col! way to bring current events into the classroom. i also beleieve that even though the events of the assyrians happened at such a long time ago it also could have infulenced terrorism that happened currently! i very much agree with you thought, very inteligent way of thinking it through!
good job! great addition to the the classes ideas!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Marie Grunbeck, 08:51:54 02/11/02 Mon
I think that if each civilzation had paid attention to the one before it, then they would not have been conquered. They would have realized that because each empire before them was conquered, they would also be conquered. If they had realized that they were going to be conquered then they would have been prepared for it to happen, and probably could have prevented it.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Dave, 08:53:20 02/11/02 Mon
One event in Mesopotamian history that we should have payed attention to was the way in which the Assyrians used terror as a political weapon. Terror is used this way in modern society. This usage of terror foreshadowed a terrible future for our society. The September 11th tragedy is an example of terror being used as a political weapon.
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Re: Topic 1 -- george francis, 09:13:39 02/11/02 Mon
wow david good thinking. your right. you sure are quite intelligent to think of that on your own
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Re: Topic 1 -- george francis, 09:15:45 02/11/02 Mon
wow david good thinking. your right. you sure are quite intelligent to think of that on your own
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Re: Topic 1 -- Jean, 08:53:27 02/11/02 Mon
If we had paid attention to the fact that people had different religions but were aloud to practice them however they wanted, then we would not need a second or third time to realize that it does not matter what religion practice and we would not get into so many political fights about religion.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Marie Grunbeck, 09:05:32 02/11/02 Mon
I think this is a very good point. I also believe that the fights that have to do with religion, today, could have been prevented if they were stopped long ago.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Nicole, 09:07:27 02/11/02 Mon
Jean, this is a very good point. A lot of people do not agree on religion, but if we had accepted it earlier on, then it would not be as big of a deal today. Foe example, the pilgrims were forced to move out of their country just because of a disagreement about religion.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Colin, 14:09:00 02/11/02 Mon
Good point, I think that people should be allowed to express and beleive in whatever religion they want to and if people did let that happen way back when then maybe the rest of the world would belive in it today aswell.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Nicole, 08:53:34 02/11/02 Mon
If we had paid attention to the creation of the bible the first time, we wouldn't have had to keep recreating it everytime we lost it.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Jean, 09:09:49 02/11/02 Mon
>If we had paid attention to the creation of the bible
>the first time, we wouldn't have had to keep
>recreating it everytime we lost it.
This brings up a very good point nicole, i completely agree with the fact that if we had paid attention to the creation of the bible, we would not have to worry about the people that lost it and then re-found it again. Our thoughts that were bottled up inside of us would probably not have been lost for the numerous amount of years that have been lost if we had just taken the time to practice religion and keep it sacred to us and not have to re-create it over and over again!
I believe that your point has been well taken nicole, great addition to the rest of the answers! :) <3
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Re: Topic 1 -- Dave, 09:12:28 02/11/02 Mon
WOW, you dug so deep for that one. I feel smarter after reading your written opinion. Thank You
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Re: Topic 1 -- Kelly Sargente, 08:56:15 02/11/02 Mon
I think that if the ancient civilizations realized the mistakes they had made the first time they could have improved on them the second time around. I think the Assyrians were able to conquer so many civilizations because they learned from their mistakes. They knew how to cause fear.When and if these civilizations had realized their mistakes instead of improving upon them for a while they should've continually been aware of such mistakes.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Kelly Sargente, 08:56:57 02/11/02 Mon
I think that if the ancient civilizations realized the mistakes they had made the first time they could have improved on them the second time around. I think the Assyrians were able to conquer so many civilizations because they learned from their mistakes. They knew how to cause fear.When and if these civilizations had realized their mistakes instead of improving upon them for a while they should've continually been aware of such mistakes.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Denise Stone, 09:14:59 02/11/02 Mon
Kelly, you made a great point saying that the Assyrians learned to cause fear. That is exactly what they did. I think that is the best example to talk about. I also included that in what I wrote. Being aware of your mistakes is a good way to fix them!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Denise Stone, 09:15:47 02/11/02 Mon
Kelly, you made a great point saying that the Assyrians learned to cause fear. That is exactly what they did. I think that is the best example to talk about. I also included that in what I wrote. Being aware of your mistakes is a good way to fix them!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Kristen Berard, 09:16:50 02/11/02 Mon
Kelly, I think that you are right about the fact that if people learned from their mistakes then they wouldn't do that agian. But what i don't understand is when you said, "I think the Assyrians were able to conquer so many civilizations because they learned from their mistakes." but what mistakes did they make. Was it that they used terror as a weapon, but i don't think they learned because they didn't stop until they were conquered. Other then that I agree with you. Good Job!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Kristen Berard, 09:18:25 02/11/02 Mon
Kelly, I think that you are right about the fact that if people learned from their mistakes then they wouldn't do that agian. But what i don't understand is when you said, "I think the Assyrians were able to conquer so many civilizations because they learned from their mistakes." but what mistakes did they make. Was it that they used terror as a weapon, but i don't think they learned because they didn't stop until they were conquered. Other then that I agree with you. Good Job!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Ryan Maclachlan, 08:57:11 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
If we had paid attention the first time, we would have developed a better method of dealing with the Arab-Israel conflict. This conflict had originally occured between the Babylonians and obviously the Jews, where the Jews were deported to Babylon.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Mike Lesniak, 08:57:13 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
One event in mesopotaminian history that we would of been better off if we had paid attention was when the Babylonians were attacked by the Assyrians. If we had paid attention to that and we knew that history repeats itself, we would of known to alwys to be prepared for an attack. We would of had troops ready for war at any time. But we didnt pay attention so when we were attacked by Japan we wernt ready and many people were killed.
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Re: Topic 1 -- george, 08:57:20 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
one event that we should have paid attention to the first time is when the assyrians forced thwe jews intto slavery which happened again in the 1800s with the africans being forced i nto slavery by americans
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Re: Topic 1 -- Tom O'Brien, 09:09:05 02/11/02 Mon
>>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
>one event that we should have paid attention to the
>first time is when the assyrians forced thwe jews
>intto slavery which happened again in the 1800s with
>the africans being forced i nto slavery by americans
That is what I said.
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Re: Topic 1 -- george, 08:58:00 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
one event that we should have paid attention to the first time is when the assyrians forced thwe jews intto slavery which happened again in the 1800s with the africans being forced i nto slavery by americans
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Re: Topic 1 -- Dave, 09:04:08 02/11/02 Mon
George, how are you? Your opinion is valued sincerely. You are a genius. Keep up the good work friend.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Colin, 09:05:43 02/11/02 Mon
Wow, george your my hero. Your thought process in the topic developmental stage is quite devine. I beleive that yout intelectual thinking is on the right course of progession. I hope to do some compatable thinking with you some time soon.
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Re: Topic 1 -- julie anne harrington I, 09:11:48 02/11/02 Mon
that is an awesome way to put it george, i agree entirely. it would have saved the lives of so many poor innocent jews that had their lives taken for no reason. excellent job george.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Tom O'Brien, 08:58:27 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
One example is how the Assyrians enslaved many people. If they had been stopped perhaps slavery would not have been used in america. Another example is how the Assyrians used terror. If they had been stopped before terror was made public perhaps terrror would not be part of our modern day society.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Mike Lesniak, 09:04:28 02/11/02 Mon
>>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
>One example is how the Assyrians enslaved many people.
> If they had been stopped perhaps slavery would not
>have been used in america. Another example is how the
>Assyrians used terror. If they had been stopped
>before terror was made public perhaps terrror would
>not be part of our modern day society.
I think so to tom!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Mike Lesniak, 09:06:50 02/11/02 Mon
>>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
>One example is how the Assyrians enslaved many people.
> If they had been stopped perhaps slavery would not
>have been used in america. Another example is how the
>Assyrians used terror. If they had been stopped
>before terror was made public perhaps terrror would
>not be part of our modern day society.
I think so to tom!
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Re: Topic 1 -- Denise Stone, 09:02:18 02/11/02 Mon
If we paid attention to many events in Mesopotamia a lot of things would not have happened.For instance, Hammurabi was able to come up with a code of laws that was the foundation for a government's rules. If we had followed his laws here in the United States then we wouldnt have had so much trouble with crime. Though it may seem horrible that if someone's son is killed by someone in your family then your son must die, it is fair. A life for a life. Now, we are more civilized than that but Hammurabi could have gotten us on the right path instead of having so much trouble coming up with our own rules. Another example could include Assyria's way of simply knocking on your door and saying "Hi, we would like to conquer you." It's a lot easier to do that than to be bombing a country and having innocent people die. If you do it once and do it right then you wont have to do it again. It's not only a faster method,it's also a smarter one! Many wars could have been avoided. This includes world war 1 and 2, September 11th...... if you think about it were talking about thousands of lives that would not be lost.
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Re: Topic 1 -- julie, 09:02:20 02/11/02 Mon
if we had paid attention to the way the assyrians used terror to conquer people, and realized how it came back to haunt them, then maybe today we would be in a world with less terror in it.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Denise Stone, 09:02:40 02/11/02 Mon
If we paid attention to many events in Mesopotamia a lot of things would not have happened.For instance, Hammurabi was able to come up with a code of laws that was the foundation for a government's rules. If we had followed his laws here in the United States then we wouldnt have had so much trouble with crime. Though it may seem horrible that if someone's son is killed by someone in your family then your son must die, it is fair. A life for a life. Now, we are more civilized than that but Hammurabi could have gotten us on the right path instead of having so much trouble coming up with our own rules. Another example could include Assyria's way of simply knocking on your door and saying "Hi, we would like to conquer you." It's a lot easier to do that than to be bombing a country and having innocent people die. If you do it once and do it right then you wont have to do it again. It's not only a faster method,it's also a smarter one! Many wars could have been avoided. This includes world war 1 and 2, September 11th...... if you think about it were talking about thousands of lives that would not be lost.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Kristen Berard, 09:04:28 02/11/02 Mon
If history repeats itself because nobody pays attention the first time then alot of things would be different. For example the people of accient mesopotamia took better care of the first scriptures of the bible then now we would easliy be able to prove the bible true, because we would have written proof. If we paid attention to history then we would know to save important documents. Also we would be able to learned more about past cultures. Another instance is how the Assyrians used terror as a weapon. This is still true today, which we know is true from September 11th. If we learned about terror from the Assyrians then we wouldn't have september 11. The assyrians used terror but after a while they we unliked and lost their power. I think that it will happen agian.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Brad Nock, 09:09:49 02/11/02 Mon
If we had payed attention to how the Assyrians had used terrorism to scare the opposing empires when they were trying to take over Mesopotamia, then maybe terrorism wouldn't be so strong today. We could have foreseen problems with terrorism and tried to eliminate it before it became a real problem. Then maybe the attack on September 11th might have been prevented and we wouldn't be having a war with terrorism right now.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Chris Zegel, 09:11:02 02/11/02 Mon
In Mesopotamia, as in all other civilizations that we know of, wars occurred. The ones without the power envied the ones with the power, and as a result different peoples overthrew each other violently. The Sumerians were conquered by the Babylonians, who were conquered by the Assyrians, and so forth. This has continued through to today, right up until in WWII when Japan attacked Hawaii. The weak envy the strong, and those without desire for what they do not have. We need to discover a way for different peoples to live in harmony and coexist, and become stronger together. If different powers each try to expand and compete with each other, conflict and strife are natural results. Even in modern times, we are still faced with the threat of war, because there are many rogue nations, less developed than most, that are jealous of the strength that the world powers possess. Our world as a community cannot seem to find a way to exist peacefully, and until it does, history will find a way ot repeat itself.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Skyler Chick, 09:11:38 02/11/02 Mon
>If history repeats itself because nobody pays
>attention the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,,comment on the
>events in mesopotamian history that we would have been
>better off if we HAD paid attention. What events
>could we have altered by attending the "first time"?
By paying attention to events in mesopotamian history, we could have altered the course of history by taking a closer note to how arguments between different groups were settled. People would fight wars in order to acquire more land, killing many people. The Assyrians would brutally kill their enemies.
In today's society, when people tend to get into arguments, they settle them with violence. Many wars, such as what is going on between Israel and Palestine, are fought because of differences in opinion. The wars of the ancient world have seemed to have set a precedent for countries of today.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Derek Ricciuto, 09:14:58 02/11/02 Mon
If history repeats itself, it means that people such as the Assyrians, who were once the major warlords of their era, but probably fell to their own arrogance, will be duplicated by later nations. An example of their predicament could very well be us, the United States, who, unless very carefull and aware of other nations, could fall into a difficult position. An example of a civilization that could have benefited from this knowledge are the Persians, who, having gained a great deal of territory, decided to so far as to invade Athens in 490 BC, and lost against the Athenian army led by Miltiades. If the Persians had paid attention to the fate of the Assyrians and waited longer to prepare and reconsider their plans, they may have won this battle. If this had happened, the Persians would have gained control of Greece, and all cultures influenced by the Greeks would have been Persian influence.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Justin Neel, 09:18:08 02/11/02 Mon
I think that if we would have paid attention to the Assyrians political weapon of terrorism and also the Persians attacks on the Greeks we could somewhat predict attacks of terrorism and ambushes on other nations.
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Re: Topic 1 -- Colin Roux, 09:18:55 02/11/02 Mon
Throughout history, history has often repeated itself. If our country was as intelligent as we are assumed to be, we should have been able to of had some better way of dealing with the terrors of 9/11. If we had considered the events of the past few months along with those of the ancient world, it is apparent that history repeats itself. The Assyrians attacked their unexpected enemies without notice as did the terrorists to us. For some reason we are too caught up in ourselves that we have no time to protect ourselves.
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