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Date Posted: 23:41:31 03/01/18 Thu
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: INVESTIGATIVE POLLS ABOUT MEDICAL THINGS DONE TO KIDS AND ADULTS



CASE REPORTS TO BE FOUND BELOW THE LINKS
Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood

By Knut Holt

http://www.panteraconsulting.com/salg2b1.htm

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. If the lonks are not active, please copy them and use them in the address fields of your browser.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Americans- please tell in my unbiased poll who you would vote for if rhe presidential election was today

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/621050

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED
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Boy, 12yo, Cystoscopy and anal inspection for urinary infection

I had cystoscopy - I am male.This was my first.The exam took place in North America. Houston Texas. 12 years old. Years 1970-1979. Cystoscopy occured in a hospital.Parents said something like: The doctor shall look at you down in your stomach.

PREPARATIONS:

Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Got a hospital gown before going to bed. The nurse had me get on a gurney and she pushed me down the hall to a special room on a different floor. The whole bed was rolled with me/she/he upon when the time for the exam had come. Got to a special preparation room.


Given enema during preparations.Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure. Nurse noted to the doctor that I had pubic hair and he told her to save it off She got some soap and lathered up my pubic area and shaved off the hair.

God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Got a shot to calm down and make sleepy.

Was totally naked during exam. Lay on back with legs in stirrups. When I got into the room they scooted me onto a big table and took off my gown so I was completely naked. They hooked me up with various wires The nurse swabbed my penis and groin with iodine which stung.

HOW THE EXAM IS REMEMBERED

They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra.They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside.

After the cystoscopy they put a catheter in my urethra which was hooked to a bag.

They inspected anus with a scope.Rolled me on my side with leg bent They stuck a metal tube up my anus It hurt
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ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed more that a day after the exam.

I had the catheter for two days and could only wear a gown I was in the hospital two more days and could wear pajamas I got shots twice a day while I was there They took urine samples daily


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP

Diagnosis - urinary infection. Got mediaction for infection. Had to have a cathetherization routine.


REASON AND JUDGEMENT

The reason was problems with urination. It was painful.It was humiliating or awful, but still it It was useful.

COMMENTS

It is standard recommendation in many sources that all boys wich has had symptoms of urinary infection shall have cystosopy. Even though it is seldome told about in public information, the anus, lower colon or the whole colon is nearly always inspected at the same event or a close event.

The story does not tell if the boy had such symptoms or that the indection got detected by the exam.

The age of 12 is a very common age for boys to have their first cystosocpy. It is possible that this community did this procedure on all boys of that age, or on all boys that had a history of health problems, and that the infection was just detected by the cystosopy. Possibly this also happened to girls.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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Girl, 16yo, Western Europe, Exensive digestive tests for behavior issues

I am a female. I was a teenager. My exact age when this occured. 16 Year 1990 - 1999. In western Europe. I was examined in a hospital.


EXAM OVERVIEW

They examined my organs inside my stomach. They examined my rectal zone. They took x-rays of the examined areas. I was totally naked.


ARRANGEMENTS

My positions during the exam: laying down in panties soft restraints arms and legs The first thing they did with me:. stripped me to panties put me in bed and soft restraint arms and legs, then eneral exam head neck chest limbs, then start exam of abdomen by listening several doctors at same time, then tapped over my abdomen around my navel one doctor others looked on.

Therafter palpation of organs vital first liver kidney spleen stomach bladder. Rgereadter very detailed palpation of intestines small and large literally tried to feel each and every loop. The exam ended by several fluid wave tests over colon stomach and entire abdomen.

Please add further comments: intestine exam very meticulos, lasted at least an hour, still feel doctors hand sinking into belly.

They did not examne my urinary system. They did not do a genital exam.


JUDGEMENT

What do you think was the reason for this exam? punishment and research.


MORE ABOUT RECTAL AND COLOBIC EXAM

They examined my rectum with an inserted finger. They took specimens from my rectum or bowel with some tube-like instrument. They took some measurements inside my rectum or bowel with a long tube-like instrument. They looked in through my rectum with a rigid optical scope. They performed a full colonoscopic exam of my entire bowel.


SYMPTOMS AFTER THE EXAM

I had strange pain or irritation in my rectal zone and stomach as if my rectum or bowel had been secretly examioned. The exam did not result in any diagnosis.


COMMENTS

It looks like they were investigating causes in the digestive system of the girl for bad behavior or behavior that was regarded as abnormal or unwanted. There are many accounts pointing to medical projects connecting pelvic and digestive issues to bahavior problems. Possibly this connection was researched in a project that used the girl. This may feel that punishment for the kid involved.
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Boy, North America, cystosocpy combined with examination of anus and colon

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America. dsf 12 years old. Before 1960. Had cystoscopy in a health centre.

PREPARATIONS

Got no explanation. The exam was a total surprize. sdfg Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Given laxatives at home before the exam. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Given enema during preparations. The whole bed was rolled with me upon when the time for the exam had come. Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure.

God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Was totally naked during exam. Lay on back with legs in stirrups.

HOW THEY EXAMINED ME

They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside. They took out the scope and inserted a new scope to take further specimens. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys.

They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the anus to inspect the bladder and genital area. They made an ultrasound exam of the scrotum and testicles.

They inspected the whole colon - full colonoscopy.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed some hours after the exam. Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP

Diagnosis - low bladder capasity. Got mediaction for infection. The reason was problems with urination.


JUDGEMENT

It was humiliating or awful.



COMMENTS

What is reportet as a flexible scope was probably a tube used to pump in fluid to test the bladder capacity and reaction.

What is reported as full colonoscopy was probably a tibe inserted and inflated to test the reactions in the colon.

Flexible scopes were not in use before 1960, and therefore the things reported was probably some other things.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm



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I am female.It happened in Latin America.1980-1989, 11 year old12 years old13 years old14 years old15 years oldMy parents just took me I don't know about any information.My parents drove me to the exam.At a regular hospital.Children that had been treated or examined by a psychologist or psychiatrist beforehand.All children that have shown more than just standard interest for sexual matters.Children with some kind of unusual bahavior or interests.Children in foster care homes or the like.It was in Venezuela. I knew some kids from a local orphanage from my school and all of them were there in addition to all of us who had been caught having private conversations and explorations of sex.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA

They washed my body before the exam.I was totally naked through all the procedures.The staff took my clothes of some time before the anesthesia had made its effect.I had to strip totally naked before the exam.They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices.I got electrodes on my cheast.I got electrodes on my stomach or hip region.I got something to swallow.I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask.The anesthesia only took away pain.The anesthesia made me relaxed but I was conscious.I was mostly awake during the procedure despite anesthesia given.

They took groups of us boys and girls into each examination room took all of our clothes off of us (and took them away out of the room) and sat us in these chairs with our legs held up and ankles strapped in. We were given a small paper cup of liquid and just a brief inhale of gas from a mask. We could all see each other's genitals clearly. The first thing they did after the anaesthesia was to wash all of our bodies with washcloths then they shaved all of our pubic hair off.

EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube.I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device.They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


INTERNAL EXAMINATIONS

They used a speculum in my vagina.They inspected my vagina with a scope.They inspected my anus with a speculum.The doctor explored my vagina with a finger.The doctor explored my anus with a finger.They also looked inside mouth and ears like a standard exam.


SOCIAL INTERRROGATION COMBINED WITH TESTING OF PSYCHOLOGICAL AND BODILY REATCTIONS

They spent a lot of time rubbing my vagina and touching my lips as well as massaging my breasts and pinching my nipples. I saw them doing something similar to the boys in the room to their genitals. They also touched our legs a lot.

I had electrodes on my body.I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. We spent a long long time in the examination room naked with our legs elevated asking us a great deal of questions about sex and our experiences. They measured our response to this asked if we got aroused easily and what happened to our body when we did.

There was also measuring and talking about our development (when was first period etc)Finally the beds were adjusted so we could sit up but our ankles still held in and legs still spread. We were instructed to look at each other thoroughly. Those who had to pee they brought a glass jar and had them pee into it.

HOW THE ORDEAL ENDED

As we were let out they told us now we have seen each other's bodies we shouldn't worry about covering up if we're changing clothes or something. All of us were led out of the examination room and taken home without getting dressed (they gave our clothes to our parents) and then I went home with my parents.I attended ordinary daytime school.It was a pretty poor school. Attendance was low for everyone.


COMMENTS

This seemed to be a general health exam combined with a surveillance of habits, reactions and social relations, and children that the society thought was of some risk were selected for the exam. It looks however that the staff exaggerated the intimate testings for own sexual gratification.

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Girls, school-age to teens, body-focused psychological exam and therapy

I am a female. I was a school-aged child and teenager. Year 1970 - 1979. In North America. I was examined in a health centre. It was a psychological clinic. My dad brought me the first time and sometimes Mom brought me but often I biked. Who did the exam? My therapist. Who was also present during the exam? Sometimes nurses sometimes my parents but sometimes nobody else.


IVERVIEW OF THE EXAM

They examined my head teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones.

They performed a psychological exam. The main focus was psychological examination.


ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked. My positions during the exam: Mostly sat in a chair or laid on a couch. Often would be asked to spread my legs and expose myself. It was just a normal psychology office, though.


THE ORDEAL STEP BY STEP

First they nsisted I get undressed. Then have a long detailed talk about the human body being beautiful and it being okay to be naked. Thirdly go over all my body parts discussing their names and functions. As I got more comfortable other people were brought in to look at me. I was observed while taking a pee The exam ended this way: always told I was welcome to walk around nude in the waiting room for a while before leaving. Over the years the psychological therapy got deeper and I was photographed to show my body changing.


PURPOSE AND OPINION

What do you think was the reason for this exam? I guess to make me not care about being nude? What is your opinion about this experience? I'm glad now but it was very embarrassing when I started. Now if anyone wants to see me I'm happy to.


MORE ABOUT THE SYCHOLOGICAL EXAM

They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life. My therapist wanted to know every time I had been naked when I stopped bathing with family etc.


INTIMATE CHECKS

Someone other person came and performed an intimate exam even though I was called in for quite another reason.
The skin exams seemed separate from the psychological exams but I always got both.

They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. Encouraged to masturbate if I felt like it. Showed pictures of my open vagina so I could see.

They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an inserted finger. Showed me pictures of my own anus since that's hard to see yourself.

I was given a lot of water so they could watch me pee.


OBSERVATIONS

The exam took a very long time. These exams usually went on for 4-5 hours.


FOLLOW-UPS

New exams as follow up. Twice a month from ages 12 to 16 Psychological or social counceling as follow up. My parents started going naked around the house and told me to do it as well.


COMMENTS

The girl possibly had shame and psychological bad attitudes towards own body and the body of others and that made it difficult for her with relationships and curbed bodily functions. The ordeals seemed to have the purpose of giving her a positive relation to own body and thereby solve these problems.

The ordeals seem to have given the wanted positive effect. But the staff possibly exaggerated the therapy sessions for own sexual gratification.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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