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Author: Ruben Montenegro Castillejo [Edit] |
Date Posted: 14:01:09 12/24/02 Tue CONCLUSION FROM THE GOSPELS AND APOCRIPHAL GOSPELS (1) The following conclusion begins by accepting what is said by st.John "God is love", making that way a path in the hard searching of God, then the Kingdom of God is the kingdom of Love , when there's love then there is justice , then there is peace , and if love justice and peace then there's true-hapiness and true-health in other words all the oppositive of what we can find in a war, and to fit with this,Jesus made miracles giving true-health that way and advises(like in the proverbs). so in the bible, like it is mentioned in tao(dark and light), it is said that there are angels of ligth and angels of darkness and so people are divided ,ones are from the left and others from the rigth, otherwise no judment will be necesary, but it is imposible for reality to be diferent , because in no high then no low, this way of thinking confirms that the perpetual exists, is non-eternal exists then eternal does too, so Jesus's enemy (that does exist) produces on people the will of making sins, what is sin but injustice(opositive)?, and despite there are people of the ligth and people of the darkness, people of ligth are also persuaded to sin, if it weren't so no savior (st.michael in my opinion, the one who will take from Jesus: John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.....>>>> ) will be needed to come(and become), because the ones from darkess will do sin with no need of being persuaded just because there are sons of devil, murders by nature(like the wild animals), so it is a will of God that the manys of the ligth be delivered from that trap which purpose is to destroy God's temple which are they(bodies)...>> 1st corinthias 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are 2nd corinthias 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. <<< luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. >>> now there's a vengeance ,if no damage done no need of vengance, what damage but damaging the just people(their bodies by inducing they to practice sin) will be the reazon for vengeance?,some are teaching them wrongly, hiding the truth, so they(the just ones) don't know what damages them:fornication, anti-natural things, and they are slaves of the sin.but Jesus says : 'the truth will deliver you', and in fact it is written "..your people will be delivered" Daniel 12).the conclusion that the non-natural thing (nowadays idols)damages life. comes from the apocriphal gospel of Mary Magdalene : <<... Peter said to him, "Since you have now explained all things to us, tell us this: what is the sin of the world?" [cf. John 1:29]. The Savior said, "Sin as such does not exist, but you make sin when you do what is of the nature of fornication, which is called 'sin.' For this reason the Good came into your midst, to the essence of each nature, to restore it to its root." He went on to say, "For this reason you come into existence and die [...] whoever knows may know [...] a suffering which has nothing like itself, which has arisen out of what is contrary to nature. Then there arises a disturbance in the whole body. For this reason I said to you, Be of good courage [cf. Matt.28:9], and if you are discouraged, still take courage over against the various forms of nature. He who has ears to hear, let him hear." ...>>>And in addition.i say about the moderm idols: < But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.>>> what do moderm idols do? Mathew 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: My point of view, the nowadays idols, are those that induce to practice sin, these are which "speak" althoung they dont realy speak, but do the same effect as if you were listenig someone telling you things too many times coming from a too bad heart, songs , tv.programs ( idols , the nowadays idols, that with songs propages disloyality, negative claims, some depress even more the depressed, some show violence, how can these things be called but idols?. Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And making a link between Daniel 7:7-8 , Daniel 7:21 , Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. >> and Mathew 15:17-19, i see what the damage is and who the victims are. Regarding to the resurrection of the dead i think michael will come as a man like the others and as i wrote before 'God is Love' , this servant's name (who is like God?'), .what is compared with love?), so since this is male he will search for his female. and Jesus said in Gospels of: Thomas 48, 'if two from this same house agree each other ,they order the hill "move" and it will move'(this is not possible for humans but it's for saints, Phillips 38 (apocriphal)) and in thomas 22 :'..when you put a hand in a place of a hand..and put a man with the woman like one..being one..you will find the kingdom", and the text that explains the death of the death (if (death dies) then resurrection) in the apocriphay gospel of Felipe(phillip) 76:'..when Eva(female) was inside Adan(male) death didn't exist ,but when she separed from him death began, if she gets in him again and he recieves her, death won't exist'. and we add romans 13:14-15, revelation 20:17,what else can a servant of God desire but love(a wife) and justice., when they get together they will say to the montain 'move', it will move, death will die then dead will resurrect. daniel 12. |
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Author: web master [Edit] |
Date Posted: 22:58:40 12/11/02 Wed Please take a look at my website. www.sendadonation.com |
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Author: TRUTH [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:09:42 11/22/02 Fri http://www.ecn.ab.ca/~azz/990responsetofalse.htm GOD's WORD DESTROYS EVERY FALSE DOCTRINE IN ITS PATH. UNDENIABLY. AND ITS PATH IS THE ENTIRE WORLD !!! ![]() |
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Author: Chris [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:47:17 11/05/02 Tue Are Christians supposed to withdraw from the world or change the world? Christ told us to make disciples of all nations. One way we do this is to vote, and to elect candidates whose views reflect God's laws. We believers are not second-class citizens; we have a voice! Don't stay home on election day. Exercise your Christian duty to vote! Many candidates for public office claim to serve the public but ignore unborn children who are killed daily by abortion. These candidates speak glowingly of human rights, but ignore the right to life. Be sure you know where candidates stand on abortion. After all, if a politician can't respect the life of a little baby, how is he supposed to respect yours? Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, but to God what belongs to God. In this familiar Gospel passage, our Lord said the coin belongs to Caesar because it bears his image. What, then belongs to God? That which bears His image, namely, human life -- including Caesar himself! Let's vote for candidates who will uphold the laws of God. Read what you need to know for the November 5 elections! Find helpful Christian materials to motivate others to vote! Visit www.gospeloflife.net and help others understand that believers have a voice in public policy. Please help educate others about their political responsibility to vote pro-life by forwarding this message on to two or three of your friends or other mailing lists to which you belong. Thank you for helping to elect pro-life politicians. See you at the polls. |
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Author: QUITTNER [Edit] |
Date Posted: 12:53:13 11/14/02 Thu Chris, you asked, in part: >>> Are Christians supposed to withdraw from the world or change the world? <<< ..... Jesus made clear that there is a separation between the "normal" community called "The World", and the special, loving, community called "The Kingdom of God". And the only people authorized to call themelves "Christians" are those living in that kingdom, with a communal lifstyle described in Acts 2:44-47 and Acts 4: 32-37. As more and more qualify to enter the kingdom, they, at the same time, leave the world. And the hope is that eventually NOBODY would remain in the world. That would be the end of the world. ..... Obviously those who still are in the world can participate in elections, but they are NOT Christians while still in the world. |
| Subject: Circumcision of the heart or circumcision of the flesh? | |
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Author: Eliyahu [Edit] |
Date Posted: 00:07:22 10/04/02 Fri Bs"d Observing God's laws can LITERALLY be a matter of life and death. Read all about it here: http://www.geocities.com/skinhim Eliyahu. |
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Author: Proverbial Thought [Edit] |
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| Subject: ISRAEL BEHIND IRAQ ATTACK | |
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Author: BRI [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:21:06 09/20/02 Fri Proof Israel/Richard Perle Dictating War On Iraq? From Dick Fojut dfgraphics@gci-net.com 9-11-2 Jeff... BEFORE carpet bombing begins and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians become "collateral damage" dead, we should first consider the following: ---------------------- IS THERE PROOF America's proposed WAR AGAINST IRAQ is being dictated by the ISRAELI government in collusion with Defense Policy Board head Richard Perle and his band of ISRAEL-FIRST advisors surrounding President Bush? --------------------- YES, according to Lyndon LaRouche who says he has PROOF and presents it in a PRESS RELEASE (see bottom), http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/090802pollard_affr.html contending that Richard Perle and an Israeli Spy Ring network of "Pollard stay-behinds" inside the Bush Administration are behind the "urgent" drive to induce Bush and Congress to go to war against Iraq! --------------------- According to LaRouche, the collusion was originally planned back in 1996, with Richard Perle proposing to then Prime Minister Netanyahu a NEW ISRAELI POLICY: * repudiating the Oslo Accords, * a PERMANENT Israeli occupation of the entire West Bank and Gaza, * elimination of Saddam Hussein, * to be followed by overthrowing or destabilizing the governments of Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. The document, "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," (FOR Israel) was prepared for the Jerusalem and Washington, D.C.-based Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), one so-called "independent" organization now being quoted in the media giving "reasons" to attack Iraq. Perle and his "Israel-First" crowd are OBSESSED with pressuring Bush and Congress to adopt and carry out their Israel-Likud "Clean Break" policy. ---------------------- (Excerprt from LaRouche Press Release): "Perle most recently staged the July 10, 2002 Defense Policy Board session, which demanded the purging of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of all opponents of the Iraq war, and called for a U.S. military occupation and takeover of the Saudi oil fields and a total break with the House of Saud-just as his July 1996 IASPS "Clean Break" study had proposed." ----------------------- (Read the LaRouche EIR Press Release at bottom and judge for yourself if there is sufficient proof for Congress to hold IMMEDIATE PUBLIC HEARINGS to investigate LaRouche's serious charges about CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR inside Bush's administration.) http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/090802pollard_affr.html ------------------------- (ADDITIONAL): In the UK Independent 10 Sept 2002, ROBERT FISK makes similar accusations about ISRAELI LOBBYISTS, now dictating policy inside the Bush administration, in the following scathing article... BUSH IS INTENT ON PAINTING ALLIES AND ENEMIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST AS EVIL http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=332011 (Excerpts): Only The Nation among all of America's newspapers and magazines has dared to point out that a large number of former Israeli lobbyists are now working within the American administration and the Bush plans for the Middle East - which could cause a massive political upheaval in the Arab world - fit perfectly into Israel's own dreams for the region. The magazine listed Vice-President Dick Cheney - the arch-hawk in the US administration - and John Bolton, now under-secretary of state for Arms Control, with Douglas Feith, the third most senior executive at the Pentagon, as members of the advisory board of the pro-Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (Jinsa) before joining the Bush government. Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's Defence Policy Board, is still an adviser on the institute, as is the former CIA director James Woolsey. ...Mr Perle advises the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld... President Bush, of course, will not be talking about the influence of these pro-Israeli lobbyists when he presents his vision of the Middle East at the United Nations on Thursday. ----------------------------- Note: The above JINSA organization was identified by LaRouche as a lobby for the Israeli Army, the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces.) and Ariel Sharon. The above (biased) officials, strongly dedicated to promoting Israel (and its army), should not be tolerated inside our government! ----------------------------- Posted by Dick Fojut Dick Fojut Graphics dfgraphics@gci-net.com Tucson, AZ ---------------------------------- ---------------------------------- PRESS RELEASE from the website of Lyndon LaRouche's EXECUTIVE INTELLIGENCE REVIEW (Released by the LaRouche in 2004 committee on Sept. 8) ------------------ THE POLLARD AFFAIR NEVER ENDED! http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/090802pollard_affr.html Lyndon LaRouche reports that there is now firm evidence that the ongoing drive to induce President George W. Bush to launch a war against Iraq, is a 1996 Israeli government policy that is being foisted on the President by a nest of Israeli agents inside the U.S. government. This Israeli spy network inside the United States was unable achieve their objective until President Bush was entrapped by the events of Sept. 11, 2001 and the falsified accounts of those events provided by this foreign intelligence apparatus, and lured over to their policies. Lyndon LaRouche demands to know: Is this not the motive that explains the who and why of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001? LaRouche demands an immediate Congressional investigation, to help purge the U.S. government of this foreign intelligence apparatus, which attempted, with the 9/11 events, to seize control over U.S. foreign policy. The network of Pollard "stay-behinds" inside the Bush Administration is engaged in a witting hoax, to induce the President and the U.S. Congress to go to war. When you read the summary evidence below, you will certainly share Lyndon LaRouche's conclusion that all of these people must be immediately fired from their Administration posts, and that the U.S. Congress must launch public hearings to get to the bottom of this criminal scheme. The summary facts are as follows: On July 8, 1996, Richard Perle, now the Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, an advisory group that reports to Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, presented a written document to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, spelling out a new Israeli foreign policy, calling for a repudiation of the Oslo Accords and the underlying concept of "land for peace"; for the permanent annexation of the entire West Bank and Gaza Strip; and for the elimination of the Saddam Hussein regime in Baghdad, as a first step towards overthrowing or destabilizing the governments of Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. The document was prepared for the Jerusalem and Washington, D.C.-based Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), a think tank financed by Richard Mellon-Scaife. The report, "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," was co-authored by Perle; Douglas Feith, currently the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Policy; David Wurmser, currently special assistant to State Department chief arms control negotiator John Bolton; and Meyrav Wurmser, now director of Mideast Policy at the Hudson Institute. Two days after he received the foreign policy blueprint from Perle, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu delivered a speech before a joint session of the U.S. Congress, which strongly echoed the IASPS outline. The same day, the Wall Street Journal published excerpts from the IASPS document, and the next day, July 11, 1996, the Journal editorially endorsed the Perle document. Beginning in February 1998, the British government of Prime Minister Tony Blair launched a concerted effort, in league with the Netanyahu government in Israel, and the Perle Israeli agent-of-influence networks inside the United States, to induce President William Clinton to launch a war against Iraq, under precisely the terms spelled out for Netanyahu in the "Clean Break" paper. The war was to be launched, ostensibly, over Iraq's possession of "weapons of mass destruction." United Nations weapons inspectors were, at this time, still on the ground inside Iraq. To buttress the war drive, British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook issued an official lying "white paper" on the Iraqi drive to obtain WMD. On Feb. 19, 1998, Richard Perle and former Congressman Stephen Solarz released an "Open Letter to the President," demanding a full-scale U.S.-led drive for "regime change" in Baghdad. The dangerously incompetent military scheme for the overthrow of Saddam that was published in the Open Letter, has been recently revived by the Perle-led network of "chickenhawks" in the office of Secretary of Defense-but has been summarily rejected by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Among the signators on the original Perle-Solarz letter were the following current Bush Administration officials: Elliott Abrams (National Security Council), Richard Armitage (State Department), John Bolton (State Department), Doug Feith (Defense Department), Fred Ikle (Defense Policy Board), Zalmay Khalilzad (White House), Peter Rodman (Defense Department), Donald Rumsfeld (Secretary of Defense), Paul Wolfowitz (Defense Department), David Wurmser (State Department), and Dov Zakheim (Defense Department). President Clinton rejected the February 1998 demand for war, sending both Netanyahu and Blair into fits of rage. On Aug. 6, 1998, Angelo Codevilla, the Washington, D.C. co-director of IASPS (along with David Wurmser), penned an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, demanding the freeing of convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. Codevilla argued that Pollard had been right to pass U.S. classified material to Israel, because of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. Days later, two members of the Netanyahu cabinet contacted Vice President Al Gore, demanding Pollard's release. After again rejecting the Netanyahu and Blair demands for war on Iraq in November 1998, President Clinton-under the impeachment onslaught, led by the Mellon-Scaife-funded apparatus-finally caved in and authorized Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, as he was returning on Air Force One from a visit to Israel. But the 70 days of bombardment did not eliminate the Saddam Hussein regime, and the issue remained dormant for the next three years ... until Sept. 11, 2001. Within moments of the 9/11 attack on Washington and New York, the same Pollard-linked American networks who had designed the Netanyahu foreign policy were on the warpath, demanding that President Bush go to war against Iraq, despite the fact that, to this day, there is no plausible evidence linking Iraq to the September 2001 irregular warfare attacks. The Sharon government in Israel instantly declared that the attack had been ordered by Saddam Hussein, and called for massive retaliation against Baghdad. On Sept. 22, 2001, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz made a feverish pitch for war on Iraq at a Camp David meeting with President Bush and most of the Cabinet. Wolfowitz had been brought into the inner circle of George W. Bush a year before the 2000 Presidential elections, at the initiative of former Secretary of State George Shultz. By 1999, Wolfowitz and Condi Rice had become co-responsible for pulling together the Bush campaign foreign policy and national security team, which Ms. Rice dubbed "The Vulcans." Wolfowitz immediately brought "X Committee" Israeli agent-of-influence Richard Perle into the inner sanctum, from where he has been peddling the Netanyahu-Israeli foreign policy agenda from day one. Perle most recently staged the July 10, 2002 Defense Policy Board session, which demanded the purging of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of all opponents of the Iraq war, and called for a U.S. military occupation and takeover of the Saudi oil fields and a total break with the House of Saud-just as his July 1996 IASPS "Clean Break" study had proposed. This is but the briefest of summaries of the massive evidence in hand. The current campaign to induce President Bush and the U.S. Congress into a war with Iraq, one that would surely unleash the "Clash of Civilizations," is a direct continuation of the Pollard affair. President Bush is being pressured-from inside his own national security apparatus-to adopt an Israeli Likud foreign policy! What nation is dictating policy to the United States? This is a scandalous hoax, far worse than the Gulf of Tonkin affair of the late 1960s. From the point that Perle, Feith, the Wurmsers, et al. first delivered the "Clean Break" policy to Netanyahu, this crowd has been obsessed with inducing the United States government to adopt and implement it. All prior efforts failed, until Sept. 11, 2001 created a new context for reviving and pushing it-under the guise of the "war on terrorism." Does this raise questions about the true, mysterious authors of the 9/11 attack? What are the links between the events of Sept. 11 and the subsequent unabated drive for war against Iraq? From Perle and Feith, to others pressing the Netanyahu scheme from outside the Administration-including Frank Gaffney, Steven Bryen, and Michael Ledeen-the entire crew were among the leading suspected Israeli spies, tasking Jonathan Pollard to steal the most precious national security secrets of the U.S.A., from inside the Reagan-Bush national security apparatus. They avoided prosecution, and later emerged as "The Vulcans," assigned to "teach" President Bush the ins and outs of foreign and national security policy. Isn't it time that these co-conspirators joined Jonathan Pollard behind bars? Isn't it time for President Bush to give these clowns a "September Surprise"? Released by the LaRouche in 2004 committee on Sept. 8. Email This Article MainPage http://www.rense.com |
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Author: Jens Peter Reuss Christensen [Edit] |
Date Posted: 01:48:22 04/09/03 Wed Is ISRAEL really behind the US/Iraq war ? If so they are doing a really lousy Job ! By preparing to come to ISRAEL with a political bill for the war , they will ( GOD WILLING ) be forced to pay a terrible price even if they get victory as seems likely. But what happens in Syria/Lebanon ? >Proof Israel/Richard Perle >Dictating War On Iraq? >From Dick Fojut >dfgraphics@gci-net.com >9-11-2 > >Jeff... > >BEFORE carpet bombing begins and tens of thousands of >innocent Iraqi civilians become "collateral damage" >dead, we should first consider the following: >---------------------- >IS THERE PROOF America's proposed WAR AGAINST IRAQ is >being dictated by the ISRAELI government in collusion >with Defense Policy Board head Richard Perle and his >band of ISRAEL-FIRST advisors surrounding President >Bush? >--------------------- >YES, according to Lyndon LaRouche who says he has >PROOF and presents it in a PRESS RELEASE (see bottom), >http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/090802pollard_af >fr.html >contending that Richard Perle and an Israeli Spy Ring >network of "Pollard stay-behinds" inside the Bush >Administration are behind the "urgent" drive to induce >Bush and Congress to go to war against Iraq! >--------------------- >According to LaRouche, the collusion was originally >planned back in 1996, with Richard Perle proposing to >then Prime Minister Netanyahu a NEW ISRAELI POLICY: * >repudiating the Oslo Accords, * a PERMANENT Israeli >occupation of the entire West Bank and Gaza, * >elimination of Saddam Hussein, * to be followed by >overthrowing or destabilizing the governments of >Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. The document, >"A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the >Realm," (FOR Israel) was prepared for the Jerusalem >and Washington, D.C.-based Institute for Advanced >Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), one so-called >"independent" organization now being quoted in the >media giving "reasons" to attack Iraq. Perle and his >"Israel-First" crowd are OBSESSED with pressuring Bush >and Congress to adopt and carry out their Israel-Likud >"Clean Break" policy. >---------------------- >(Excerprt from LaRouche Press Release): "Perle most >recently staged the July 10, 2002 Defense Policy Board >session, which demanded the purging of the Joint >Chiefs of Staff of all opponents of the Iraq war, and >called for a U.S. military occupation and takeover of >the Saudi oil fields and a total break with the House >of Saud-just as his July 1996 IASPS "Clean Break" >study had proposed." >----------------------- >(Read the LaRouche EIR Press Release at bottom and >judge for yourself if there is sufficient proof for >Congress to hold IMMEDIATE PUBLIC HEARINGS to >investigate LaRouche's serious charges about CRIMINAL >BEHAVIOUR inside Bush's administration.) >http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/090802pollard_af >fr.html >------------------------- >(ADDITIONAL): In the UK Independent 10 Sept 2002, >ROBERT FISK makes similar accusations about ISRAELI >LOBBYISTS, now dictating policy inside the Bush >administration, in the following scathing article... >BUSH IS INTENT ON PAINTING ALLIES AND ENEMIES IN THE >MIDDLE EAST AS EVIL >http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.j >sp?story=332011 > >(Excerpts): Only The Nation among all of America's >newspapers and magazines has dared to point out that a >large number of former Israeli lobbyists are now >working within the American administration and the >Bush plans for the Middle East - which could cause a >massive political upheaval in the Arab world - fit >perfectly into Israel's own dreams for the region. >The magazine listed Vice-President Dick Cheney - the >arch-hawk in the US administration - and John Bolton, >now under-secretary of state for Arms Control, with >Douglas Feith, the third most senior executive at the >Pentagon, as members of the advisory board of the >pro-Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security >Affairs (Jinsa) before joining the Bush government. >Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's Defence >Policy Board, is still an adviser on the institute, as >is the former CIA director James Woolsey. ...Mr Perle >advises the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld... >President Bush, of course, will not be talking about >the influence of these pro-Israeli lobbyists when he >presents his vision of the Middle East at the United >Nations on Thursday. >----------------------------- >Note: The above JINSA organization was identified by >LaRouche as a lobby for the Israeli Army, the IDF >(Israeli Defense Forces.) and Ariel Sharon. The above >(biased) officials, strongly dedicated to promoting >Israel (and its army), should not be tolerated inside >our government! >----------------------------- >Posted by Dick Fojut >Dick Fojut Graphics dfgraphics@gci-net.com >Tucson, AZ >---------------------------------- >---------------------------------- >PRESS RELEASE >from the website of Lyndon LaRouche's >EXECUTIVE INTELLIGENCE REVIEW >(Released by the LaRouche in 2004 committee on Sept. >8) >------------------ >THE POLLARD AFFAIR NEVER ENDED! >http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/090802pollard_af >fr.html > >Lyndon LaRouche reports that there is now firm >evidence that the ongoing drive to induce President >George W. Bush to launch a war against Iraq, is a 1996 >Israeli government policy that is being foisted on the >President by a nest of Israeli agents inside the U.S. >government. This Israeli spy network inside the United >States was unable achieve their objective until >President Bush was entrapped by the events of Sept. >11, 2001 and the falsified accounts of those events >provided by this foreign intelligence apparatus, and >lured over to their policies. Lyndon LaRouche demands >to know: Is this not the motive that explains the who >and why of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001? LaRouche >demands an immediate Congressional investigation, to >help purge the U.S. government of this foreign >intelligence apparatus, which attempted, with the 9/11 >events, to seize control over U.S. foreign policy. The >network of Pollard "stay-behinds" inside the Bush >Administration is engaged in a witting hoax, to induce >the President and the U.S. Congress to go to war. > >When you read the summary evidence below, you will >certainly share Lyndon LaRouche's conclusion that all >of these people must be immediately fired from their >Administration posts, and that the U.S. Congress must >launch public hearings to get to the bottom of this >criminal scheme. > >The summary facts are as follows: > >On July 8, 1996, Richard Perle, now the Chairman of >the Defense Policy Board, an advisory group that >reports to Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, >presented a written document to Israeli Prime Minister >Benjamin Netanyahu, spelling out a new Israeli foreign >policy, calling for a repudiation of the Oslo Accords >and the underlying concept of "land for peace"; for >the permanent annexation of the entire West Bank and >Gaza Strip; and for the elimination of the Saddam >Hussein regime in Baghdad, as a first step towards >overthrowing or destabilizing the governments of >Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. The document >was prepared for the Jerusalem and Washington, >D.C.-based Institute for Advanced Strategic and >Political Studies (IASPS), a think tank financed by >Richard Mellon-Scaife. The report, "A Clean Break: A >New Strategy for Securing the Realm," was co-authored >by Perle; Douglas Feith, currently the Assistant >Secretary of Defense for Policy; David Wurmser, >currently special assistant to State Department chief >arms control negotiator John Bolton; and Meyrav >Wurmser, now director of Mideast Policy at the Hudson >Institute. > >Two days after he received the foreign policy >blueprint from Perle, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu >delivered a speech before a joint session of the U.S. >Congress, which strongly echoed the IASPS outline. The >same day, the Wall Street Journal published excerpts >from the IASPS document, and the next day, July 11, >1996, the Journal editorially endorsed the Perle >document. > >Beginning in February 1998, the British government of >Prime Minister Tony Blair launched a concerted effort, >in league with the Netanyahu government in Israel, and >the Perle Israeli agent-of-influence networks inside >the United States, to induce President William Clinton >to launch a war against Iraq, under precisely the >terms spelled out for Netanyahu in the "Clean Break" >paper. The war was to be launched, ostensibly, over >Iraq's possession of "weapons of mass destruction." >United Nations weapons inspectors were, at this time, >still on the ground inside Iraq. > >To buttress the war drive, British Foreign Secretary >Robin Cook issued an official lying "white paper" on >the Iraqi drive to obtain WMD. On Feb. 19, 1998, >Richard Perle and former Congressman Stephen Solarz >released an "Open Letter to the President," demanding >a full-scale U.S.-led drive for "regime change" in >Baghdad. The dangerously incompetent military scheme >for the overthrow of Saddam that was published in the >Open Letter, has been recently revived by the >Perle-led network of "chickenhawks" in the office of >Secretary of Defense-but has been summarily rejected >by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Among the signators on >the original Perle-Solarz letter were the following >current Bush Administration officials: Elliott Abrams >(National Security Council), Richard Armitage (State >Department), John Bolton (State Department), Doug >Feith (Defense Department), Fred Ikle (Defense Policy >Board), Zalmay Khalilzad (White House), Peter Rodman >(Defense Department), Donald Rumsfeld (Secretary of >Defense), Paul Wolfowitz (Defense Department), David >Wurmser (State Department), and Dov Zakheim (Defense >Department). > >President Clinton rejected the February 1998 demand >for war, sending both Netanyahu and Blair into fits of >rage. > >On Aug. 6, 1998, Angelo Codevilla, the Washington, >D.C. co-director of IASPS (along with David Wurmser), >penned an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, demanding >the freeing of convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard. >Codevilla argued that Pollard had been right to pass >U.S. classified material to Israel, because of the >threat posed by Saddam Hussein. Days later, two >members of the Netanyahu cabinet contacted Vice >President Al Gore, demanding Pollard's release. > >After again rejecting the Netanyahu and Blair demands >for war on Iraq in November 1998, President >Clinton-under the impeachment onslaught, led by the >Mellon-Scaife-funded apparatus-finally caved in and >authorized Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, as >he was returning on Air Force One from a visit to >Israel. But the 70 days of bombardment did not >eliminate the Saddam Hussein regime, and the issue >remained dormant for the next three years ... until >Sept. 11, 2001. > >Within moments of the 9/11 attack on Washington and >New York, the same Pollard-linked American networks >who had designed the Netanyahu foreign policy were on >the warpath, demanding that President Bush go to war >against Iraq, despite the fact that, to this day, >there is no plausible evidence linking Iraq to the >September 2001 irregular warfare attacks. The Sharon >government in Israel instantly declared that the >attack had been ordered by Saddam Hussein, and called >for massive retaliation against Baghdad. > >On Sept. 22, 2001, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul >Wolfowitz made a feverish pitch for war on Iraq at a >Camp David meeting with President Bush and most of the >Cabinet. Wolfowitz had been brought into the inner >circle of George W. Bush a year before the 2000 >Presidential elections, at the initiative of former >Secretary of State George Shultz. By 1999, Wolfowitz >and Condi Rice had become co-responsible for pulling >together the Bush campaign foreign policy and national >security team, which Ms. Rice dubbed "The Vulcans." >Wolfowitz immediately brought "X Committee" Israeli >agent-of-influence Richard Perle into the inner >sanctum, from where he has been peddling the >Netanyahu-Israeli foreign policy agenda from day one. >Perle most recently staged the July 10, 2002 Defense >Policy Board session, which demanded the purging of >the Joint Chiefs of Staff of all opponents of the Iraq >war, and called for a U.S. military occupation and >takeover of the Saudi oil fields and a total break >with the House of Saud-just as his July 1996 IASPS >"Clean Break" study had proposed. > >This is but the briefest of summaries of the massive >evidence in hand. The current campaign to induce >President Bush and the U.S. Congress into a war with >Iraq, one that would surely unleash the "Clash of >Civilizations," is a direct continuation of the >Pollard affair. President Bush is being pressured-from >inside his own national security apparatus-to adopt an >Israeli Likud foreign policy! What nation is dictating >policy to the United States? This is a scandalous >hoax, far worse than the Gulf of Tonkin affair of the >late 1960s. > >From the point that Perle, Feith, the Wurmsers, et al. >first delivered the "Clean Break" policy to Netanyahu, >this crowd has been obsessed with inducing the United >States government to adopt and implement it. All prior >efforts failed, until Sept. 11, 2001 created a new >context for reviving and pushing it-under the guise of >the "war on terrorism." Does this raise questions >about the true, mysterious authors of the 9/11 attack? >What are the links between the events of Sept. 11 and >the subsequent unabated drive for war against Iraq? > >From Perle and Feith, to others pressing the Netanyahu >scheme from outside the Administration-including Frank >Gaffney, Steven Bryen, and Michael Ledeen-the entire >crew were among the leading suspected Israeli spies, >tasking Jonathan Pollard to steal the most precious >national security secrets of the U.S.A., from inside >the Reagan-Bush national security apparatus. They >avoided prosecution, and later emerged as "The >Vulcans," assigned to "teach" President Bush the ins >and outs of foreign and national security policy. >Isn't it time that these co-conspirators joined >Jonathan Pollard behind bars? Isn't it time for >President Bush to give these clowns a "September >Surprise"? > >Released by the LaRouche in 2004 committee on Sept. 8. > > > >Email This Article > > > > >MainPage >http://www.rense.com |
| Subject: Bible Prophecy for the Churches of God, the Tribes of Israel, and the World | |
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Author: Lori [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:22:35 09/07/02 Sat All the articles published by Zion Ministries are about endtime Bible prophecy. Prophecies about the Beast of Daniel, the four horsemen of the Apocalyse, the Beast and the false prophet, the Holy Roman Empire, Babylon, the Holydays and the Sabbath. It concerns all the nations of the earth, including Germany, the 12 tribes of Israel, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Turkey, Egypt, Italy, Libya, Greece, Tyre and all their biblical names, such as Greco-Macedonian Empire, Babylonian Empire, Medo-Persian Empire, and the Byzantine Empire. There are many references to such men as Darius, Cyrus, Antiochus Epiphanes, Seleucus, Nebuchednezzar, Ephraim, Manasseh, Alexander the Great. The prophecies speak of two witnesses or two prophets who appear in the endtime, and also a King of the North and a King of the South. All prophecy will centre on Jerusalem, the Holy City, the Zion of God. The central feature in Jerusalem is the Holy Place which is Mount Zion or Mount Moriah - the remnant of the mighty mountain over which Omar's Mosque or the Dome of the Rock now stands. Ezekiel spoke of these things, as well as all the other prophets, including Isaiah, Habakkuk, Zechariah, Joel, Amos, Malachi, Moses, and also Jesus Christ the Messiah. Central to the endtime prophecies will be the Mark of the Beast. You need to understand! And the great war called the Battle of Armageddon will be fought at Jerusalem. The Abomination of Desolation will trigger the Great Tribulation when the beast desecrates the Holy Temple in Jerusalem. The Olivet prophecy is about these things. Jesus Christ spoke of these things on the Mount of Olives. But there is much prophecy to be fulfilled before the Great Tribulation! Now as never before you need to understand and prepare yourselves for the unimaginable horror soon to descend on this earth! Zion Ministry |
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Author: Edward/ Forum Master [Edit] |
Date Posted: 23:59:50 04/04/02 Thu Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Jeremiah 6:16 ARE YOU WALKING IN THE OLD PATHS |
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Author: QUITTNER [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:43:58 07/17/02 Wed Jeremiah lived a very long time ago, when the word LORD meant the God of the Jews, and NOT Jesus. |
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Author: Edward/forum master [Edit] |
Date Posted: 01:08:00 04/04/02 Thu Jesus said UP ON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT. ARE YOU MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH? Did you join or were you added to the Church you attend? WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? |
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