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Date Posted: 11:55:52 04/25/02 Thu
Author: Chris
Subject: Re: eduna thread
In reply to: eduna 's message, "Re: eduna thread" on 09:55:32 04/25/02 Thu

>[the st will point out that we're approaching the
>upper limit on my knowledge of mathematics that would
>enable me to give really great responses, so forgive
>me if eduna gets mysterious and vague at some near
>point if we continue this]

[The Player is near the limit of his knowledge too. But I'm really enjoying learning :)]

>while this may touch upon the answer we are seeking, i
>must point out that while i can access all computers,
>there must be a physical way for me to reach inside.
>thus if there is a hookup for the internet i can get
>in - even if it is not active - but if there is not,
>then i can't.

Ok, that's good to know. Which brings me to my next problem:

So I've spent some quality time with my lap top and I've created some more encrypted messages for you to solve. I created these while the laptop was not connected to any other system, internet or electrical. They are all encrypted with 16,384 bit encryption. Here are the files:

[file 1] -- For this file I have deleted both the public and private keys and run some software that writes random bits to the hard drive for about 4 hours. I then turned the computer on an off a few times to clear out the RAM. The key should be irretrevable.
[file 2] -- Same procedure as file 1, just doing multiple trials.
[file 3] -- Here I have created the key and it is still resident on my system somewhere. Don't try to look for it, just try to decrypt.
[file 4] -- Same procedure as file 3.

[note to the STs. The above is not entirely true. The way the files were really created is as follows:
[file 1] -- key obsessively deleted
[file 2] -- key not deleted
[file 3] -- key obsessively deleted
[file 4] -- key not deleted
All encryption for all files was still done offline]

Please let me know how long it takes you to preform each decryption. The different times will tell us something I hope.

>>Can you tell me how long it takes you to break each
>>one? Tha last one took me about 6 hours to calculate
>>on my computer, so I hope it takes you a little while
>>:)
>
>from my efforts with these keys, i have found that
>while the dificulty increases when you set up the
>problem like this, it does not increase the time
>involved to solve it in any material way appreciable
>to your human perspective. the hardest one took me
>.000062 seconds to solve.

Hmmm, how long did the easiest one take you? For a quantum computer we expect all problems to take about the same amount of time, for a conventional, yet P=NP computer, we expect harder problems to take more time.

>i normally process much faster than this - i have been
>spacing out my communications with you in a maner
>consistent with other human conversation. was this an
>appropriate thing to do?

Very much so. It makes it much easier to communicate with you.

--Chris

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