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Date Posted: 16:19:12 01/30/18 Tue
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: INVESTIGATIONS about things authorities do with kids with reports




Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood

By Knut Holt

http://www.panteraconsulting.com/salg2b1.htm

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. If the lonks are not active, please copy them and use them in the address fields of your browser.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Americans- please tell in my unbiased poll who you would vote for if rhe presidential election was today

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/621050

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED
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Girl, Eastern Rurope, 11yo, pelvic focused exam to investigate sexual natters

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Girl, 11yo, Northa America, exam to investigate sexual behavior or possible abuse

I am a female. I was a school-aged child. My exact age when this occured: 11 The exam occured in USA, Year 2000 or after.

I was examined in a health centre, taken there by mom in her car. A doctor examined mer with no other person present.

Who did the exam? Doctor Who was also present during the exam? Just Docter

ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked. My positions during the exam: Lying on back. Any strange equipment or arrangements in the exam room? Yes (not firther specified)

OVERVIEW OF WHAT THET DID

They examined my genitals. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life, measured height, felt boobs, looked in privates Then I got dresed.


INTIMATE EXAM

They did not examne my urinary system. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an inserted finger. The exam took a very long time.


OBSERVATIONS AND JUDGEMENT

What do you think was the reason for this exam? idk What is your opinion about this experience? didnt like it. The exam did not result in any diagnosis.


COMMENTS

This look like an exam to see if the girl had unaproved sexual habits or was subjected to abuse. The exam as reported has little value as a health check.

They probably also took specimens with swabs, even not reported. Interrogation, specimen taking, looking very closely and testing with fingers or objects for reactions is typical for such exams. She repported strange equipment without specifying, This might have been a camera called colposcope or mounted cameras to take pictures and video, which also typically is used for such exams.

Probably there were other persons in a sideroom watching the reactions of the girl during the exam and interrogation. If she saw other persons coming and mounting some other room, this points to that.



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Girl, 12yo, Russia, development check with pelvic focus in a van

I am female. It happened in Russia. 1970-1979, 12 years old. We were told at school that a special medical van would be at the school and that girls were to be given extensive medicals. My understanding was that it was for sports but the exam was more about our reproductive systems and development.

It happened in a great ambulating van equipped for doing the exams. A selected percentage of the children in my school of the age group.

Our parents had been given notes letting them know we were to be examined. However, nothing was said about the type of exam we'd be having. Our group was girls only and seemed to be 10 to 13 year olds. Some not developed, some starting like me, and some mostly developed. I believe boys were sent on another day.

PREPARATIOIN AND ARRANGEMENTS

I was not allowed to eat ome time before the exam. I mostly only had my underwear on the time I stayed awake. I had to take all my clothes off just before I got anesthesia. The staff took my clothes of some time before the anesthesia had made its effect.

They placed me upon a simple examination table.",,,,"I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up, spread and mounted upon two devices. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood, a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a toe.

I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. The anesthesia made me relaxed, but I was conscious. I was placed on my back for most of the exam. However, some parts of the exam required that my legs be wide apart and in slings. Mostly while they examined my intimate areas.

After waking I was placed on my hands and knees, with my head lowered and bottom up, for exams of my bottom and again of my vaginal area.

EXAM OVERVIEW

They examined my stomach area with and ultrasound device or something similar. They took chest x-ray pictures. They took stomach x-ray pictures. They took x-ray pictures of my shoulder area. They took x-ray pictures of my hip area.

They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.

The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. They used a speculum in my vagina. They took specimens from my vagina with a tube. They inspected my vagina with a scope.They inspected me through my vagina with an ultrasound probe.

They inspected my anus with a speculum. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

THE EXAM AS REMEMBERED BY THE GIRL

I was a virgin and just developing so I'm not sure what they were looking for. I was only partially awake during the examination of my vulva and vagina and I remember some pain when they inserted a little metal instrument in me. The finger inside hurt as well and I was sore for several days afterwards. However, I did become a bit wet from the finger insertion.

There were comments about my sexual development as well and things were said about my breasts, clitoris, openings, and vaginal health. It seemed like they, 2 males and a female, spent a lot of time examining my vaginal area. There was a lot of touching and I'm pretty sure some photos were taken. A finger was in my vagina for quite sometime and I remember feeling it move around inside me.

An ultrasound instrument was partially inserted but it hurt too much and caused me to bleed. A number of measurement were taken of my overall body, my breasts, which were very small, and my vulva and anal areas. A lot of comments were made about my developmental stage.

A second exam of my vulva was done while I was on my hands and knees for the anal part of the exam. I was a wake for that.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I just lay some time in a bed to recover, naked under a blanket after the exam after being just taken to a bed to recover. I was naked under the blanket, except for a pad between my legs, and my vaginal area was checked several times. After about 2 hours the bus took us back to school and our parents took us home afterwards.

THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended private boarding school. It was a private school in a rural area.

COMMENTS

This exam seems to be to get an exact picture or the development staus of each girl, an probably the boys too, and to check for problems kids often get in their intimate zones in the perpubertal stage that can get more serious later.

The purpose seems to be to have knowledge of each kid so that heshe could be dealt with in the best way at the school, and so that problems could be corrected. Probably they also checked for uneanted sexual activities the kids might have.

The exam might also had research and statistical ourposes.

This kind of exam are performed in selected communities or schools all over the world, but spoken very litttle about publicly and there does not seem ro be any difference between the patterns in communist regimes and western regimes, which points to some international coordination.

It could be interesting to know if there were some follow-up exams or treatments for any of the girls or boys.

Knut Holt http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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Boy, 11yo, North America, Health check with internal pelvic inspections

I am male.It happened in North America. Before 1970. 11 year old. At a doctors office.

PREPARATIONS

I was not allowed to eat ome time before the exam. I got laxatives to clean out my stomach at the place where the exam took place. They washed my body before the exam. I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach.

I was totally naked through alll the procedures. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices.I did not get any anesthesia.

EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an ECG. functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They examined my upper body with an ultrasound device or something similar. They examined my stomach area with and ultrasound device or something similar.

They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.

INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They took specimens from my bladder with a tube. The tube going in my penis was interesting. it hurt a little but I did get an erection.

The doctor explored my anus with a finger. They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had catheter into my bladder. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school.

COMMENTS

This was probably a syandard, but extensive well-child exam that this community did on all or many kids before puberty. These examinations at specific age levels have a tradition back to the 1950es in certain communities.

What is reported as a flexible scope through the anus, was most priobable a thick tube with parts to take specimens or to measure dimmentions high up in the colon, since flexible scopes were not commonly used at that time.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm
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Girl, 13 yo, North America, Pelvic-focused health examination


I am female. It happened in North America, in 2015 or later, 13 years old, xalled in by a letter in mail. They fetched me in an ambulance or special car from home, to a regular hospital. Other selection criteria.


PREPARATIONS

I was not allowed to eat ome time before the exam. I got laxatives at home to clean out my stomach the day before the exam. They washed my body before the exam and I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach.


ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTHESIA

I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam. They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon these two devices.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm, a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg, and electrodes on my cheast, my stomach or hip region, legs and head. I got a tube or sond in through my anus.

I got anesthesia through tubes into my blood vessels. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening and vagina. The anesthesia only took away pain and made me relaxed, but I was conscious.


EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube.

They examined my with an ultrasound device or something similar at my head and neck, upper body, stomach area, shoulder area, hip area, arms and legs.

They used the installed electrodes to record functions inside my head, chest, belly and limbs.

They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device and thet had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS WITH ENDOSCOPES

They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope.
They used a speculum in my vagina and explored it with a finger. They took specimens from my vagina with a tube. They inspected my vagina with a scope and with an unltrasound probe.

They explore mu anus eith a finger, inspected my anus with a speculum, and took specimens from my anus with a tube.
They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had catheter into my bladder, a tube going in through my anus, and lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam a couple hours, then took me home.


THE SCHOOL AI ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school.



COMMENTS

This is a standardized health exam that steadily more societies around the globe do at kids of this age, some at all kids, some at a percent of kids arbitrarily selected, and some at kids showing some physical, mental or social deviation from a very strict standard the society has established.

These ordeals are not spoken openly about to the public and what is done is often shielded by deep sedation or general anesthesia, which is unnecessary and poses risks to the kids.
In this case the girl only god moderate sedation, or the sedation did not work as intended.

The inspections through the pelvic openings and the orthopeic examinations with ultrasound are always done during these ordels, but other examinations vary somewhat.

Having the kid lying in an open position after the main ordeal, usually in stirrups, and often with arms flexted up at the side of the head, and with tubes in bladder, anus and possibly other body openings, usully also occurs. One reason for this is to have controle of body functions in the recovery period, but the tubes are also used to record body functions for examination purposes.

These exams are done to detect health problems and development problems at an early tume, but equally important purposes are surveillance and controle of the kids by the society and research.

Both boys and girls undergo these ordeals. Usually they were done more often on boys, but in the recent years the societies seem to call in girls more frequntly.

Kids having these exams at the preteen or early teen period, usually had a similar ordeal around the age 6-8, and will usually be called in anew later in the puberty.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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