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Date Posted: 15:12:13 05/28/07 Mon
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In reply to:
nontrinitarian
's message, "We're missing the point" on 11:48:39 05/28/07 Mon
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As a subscriber to brother Ronald Day's discussion board:
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Restoration Light Bible Discussions
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I received the latest bulliten from that board within a couple of hours of posting my treatise on 1 John 5:7 to this forum, in which he quite rightly points out that it is not the whole of 1 John 5:7 (KJV) which is recognized by ecclesiastic authorities to be spurious and counterfit, but rather the phrase within it which is bracketed in the following quote :
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“For there are three that bear record [[ in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, ]] the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.”
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It is this PART of 1JN5:7 which is recognized as having been added to the Greek NT in the 12th century, and not the entire verse.
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Notice that the authentic portion of the verse in no way suggests that God is a tri-une being composed of Father, Son and Holy Spirit...hence the "necessity" for insidiously adding non-biblical words to the center of this otherwise benign and edifying verse.
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Thanks, Ronald, for the clarification. I appreciate that you helped me to avoid misteaching tangentel "facts" regarding this outrageous counterfitting of the Bible.
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>Our brother's question is about 1 John 5:7, not
>Matthew.
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>The simple and provable FACT is that 1 John 5:7 is a
>counterfit verse. It appears in no existing NT
>manuscript copy written before the twelfth century.
>It began life from the pen of a Spanish theologen who
>was branded by the Catholic Church itself as a
>heretic. It appeared in the MARGIN NOTES of some
>copies of the Septuagent (Latin translation of the NT)
>in reference to 1 John, and from there it "made its
>way into" post 12th century copies of the NT - as one
>historian puts it. What? Was it a brainy worm or
>something? Did it decide to crawl out of the marginal
>notes and into the Scripture itself? Hardly.
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>In fact, when the most prominant 12th century English
>translator of the NT refused to place it in his work
>without evidence that it had existed in the Greek NT
>as the trinitarian church insisted he do, a Greek
>manuscript copy was PRODUCED by them which had only
>one difference from previous manuscript copys....it
>included the verse in the Greek. As a result, the
>English translator was forced to include it in his
>English version of the NT, and it became established
>Scripture.
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>Basic research will establish that this is the truth,
>and it is for this reason that almost all modern
>revised translations delete this verse from their work.
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>It is universally recognized among Bible scholars,
>historians and translators to be a spurious and
>counterfit verse....inserted into the Bible by a
>trinitarian church with an agenda....and in flagrant
>defiance of the NT injunction to add no words to the
>existing text.
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>The reason is obvious. Since there is no statement in
>the NT declaring the trinitarian "three in one"
>concept, they simply counterfited one and passed it
>off to unsuspecting Christians for centuries as
>legitimate Scripture.
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>Why would the "central doctrine of Christianity" need
>to be predicated on a blatent lie?
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>>>I don't believe in the trinity but how does one
>>>reconcile the following scripture with the fact that
>>>the trinity is a false doctrine?
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>>This is what I left out.
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>>For there are three that bear record in heaven, the
>>Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three
>>are one. (1 JOHN 5:7 KJV)**
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