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Subject: The Issue Is What Is Shaved, Not Who Does It


Author:
Karen
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Date Posted: 13:34:50 11/01/09 Sun
In reply to: Carol 's message, "Unnecessary exposure" on 16:45:20 10/21/09 Wed
 The sex of the nurses and aides assigned to various tasks is not the issue, is it? When it comes to shaving, nearly all the complaints I've seen here have more to do with what area is shaved, not who does it.

Although most prefer opposite-sex, a few prefer same sex caregivers.
Some people don't have a preference, either way. We've seen all sides commenting in this thread.

I'm sure that if a person felt very strongly about the sex of his or her caregivers, it is very likely that some arrangements can be made if a request is made with enough lead-time to make the arrangements.
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[> [> Subject: What About How The Aides and Techs Feel?


Author:
Former Aide
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Date Posted: 17:21:53 11/01/09 Sun
All we see on this and other boards is how embarrassed some male patients feel when a female aide or technician shaves them for surgery. On the other hand, some guys say they don't mind at all. Notice that either way it is all about the male's feelings, and nobody else's.

But what about the females' feelings? Believe it or not, some woman find it embarrassing when they happen to be assigned to shave a male patient. The posters here act as though these women have no feelings on the matter at all, but many of them surely do. Some of them dread being assigned to shave a male.

The point is, not everyone is pleased by what goes on in a health care situation, but everyone involved has to do what they have to do in order to get the work done so the patient can get back to his normal life again.

So let's agree that even if nobody is fully satisfied with everything that takes place in health care, we all have feelings, the staff included, believe it or not.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The Issue Is What Is Shaved, Not Who Does It


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Rodger to Former Aid
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Date Posted: 17:05:30 11/02/09 Mon
OK, so you want us guys who a laid out naked in front of a fully dressed female, to be concerned about her feelings? What you're saying is that this poor helpless female should not be forced to look at some guy's nasty genitals.
What a crock of crap. You need to get a job in a chicken plant slinging chicken guts. We certainly don't need someone with your attitude working with patients.

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[> [> Subject: Re: The Issue Is What Is Shaved, Not Who Does It


Author:
Lynn
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Date Posted: 16:28:22 11/03/09 Tue
Showing respect should be the default procedure. Patients shouldn't have to insist on respect, it should always be given to them automatically. They should assume that most people prefer an opposite-sex nurse or tech to do something so intimate. Of course the patient should also be able to request same-sex nurses if they're uncomfortable with someone of the opposite sex.

Unfortunately many patients don't even know it's going to happen until it's too late. They'll either not realize what's happening until the caretaker pulls the gown open to do it or they wake up and are surprised to see they are completely shaved. Very, very unethical. They should ALWAYS be given a choice.

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