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Subject: Re: Unnecessary exposure Author: rk [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 23:40:10 11/03/09 Tue In reply to: Carol 's message, "Unnecessary exposure" on 16:45:20 10/21/09 Wed "Although most prefer opposite-sex, a few prefer same sex caregivers. Some people don't have a preference, either way." "Patients shouldn't have to insist on respect, it should always be given to them automatically. They should assume that most people prefer an opposite-sex nurse or tech to do something so intimate." The first statement is by Karen. The second is by Lynn. I just want to make sure I understand what they're saying. Both seem to be saying that most women prefer males to do intimate procedures and exams (like shaving) on them. They're using the neutral term "person" or "patient," so I assume they mean both men and women. So, to sum up, am I correct in that you two are saying most men prefer female intimate care and most women prefer males for intimate care? Do you, Lynn and Karen, prefer male nurses do do intimate care on you? In other words, if you could choose, would you choose the male nurse? Former Aide makes a fair point: "So let's agree that even if nobody is fully satisfied with everything that takes place in health care, we all have feelings, the staff included, believe it or not." I agree with you. Sometimes we forget that everyone's feelings are involved. But the focus needs to be on the patient. The patient has enough to worry about without feeling responsible for the feelings of the caregiver. On the other hand, caregivers are indeed responsible for concern for patient feelings. Caregivers need to deal with their feelings themselves, and if they can't deal with them, they need to consider why they're doing what they're doing. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: You Already Know The Answer To That Author: Susan [Edit] Date Posted: 06:15:05 11/04/09 Wed Of course you know the answer. Female patients, nearly all of them, prefer female care givers for intimate procedures, ut this refers only to nurses and aides doing the care. Oddly enough, women still seem to prefer male gynecologists. This is evidenced by a federal court case in California in which a male nurse was denied a job in a hospital's ob-gyn department. The hospital argued that female patients will not accept intimate care from a male nurse. The male nurse's attorneys argued that most women had male gynecologists, but the judge didn't buy that as a reason to force the hospital to hire male nurses in that department. The judge happened to be female herself. She decided in the hospital's favor, agreeing that women do not want care from male nurses even if the women's physician is a male. Unfortunately, there was no indication in the news report on this case that any former female patients were called to testify, so we'll never know how the hospital was able to prove its assertion that women do not accept intimate care from male nurses. I wish some women would respond here and tell us how they feel about receiving such care from male nurses and aides. Let's hope the women addressed by rk, above, will respond to his questions. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: You Already Know The Answer To That Author: jean the frenchie [Edit] Date Posted: 04:30:44 11/06/09 Fri I do not want to speak instead of women but I am convinced that "Susan" is right about what women prefers in genders of medical persons they obviously prefer women as technicians, aids, nurses and it is the same for some men, not all of course, myself I prefer also women nurses than male nurses if I need some cares, even intimate cares, and the same for technicians, aids or medics secretaries ... and I am not surprised that some women prefer also male doctors as gynecologists. For me, it is depending on my health issue but I prefer very often to be examined by a woman doctor, so it is not true to think that it is less comfortable to be examined by persons of the opposite gender! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]