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Subject: Movie Chat Author: Ken [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:15:13 12/06/02 Fri In reply to: Jeff 's message, "Saturday night viewin'" on 18:11:18 11/30/02 Sat >Just started watchin' "Seven Brides for Seven >Brothers". I've always loved that movie. Right there >with West Side Story and Oklahoma. I believe you guys >don't like musicals... I enjoyed West Side Story all right. I dated a girl who was nuts for musicals, and we saw West Side Story live at the SunDome, too. She forced me to watch some other musical on video, I'll be damned if I remember what it was called. It was a western, too, with a very young Clint Eastwood of all people, but that's about as much as I remember. As I recall, I didn't vomit all over the place when I watched it. >I've always enjoyed watching >them. Maybe if I walked around and sang songs of >finding a good woman, life would be just fine. I think you should try that, Jeff. I mean, if you are ever drafted into the military and are looking for a way out. >By the way, other then John any of you other fucks >ever watched Mulholland Drive? the David Lynch film? I >watched it last night and I'd like someone to explain >some shit to me about what the hell that movie was >about. I was ok half way through it THEN it got weird >and its really PISSES me off!! John has exhorted me to see that one for some time, but I never have. I think I can help you understand it, though, if you're having trouble comprehending. First thing to keep in mind is that it is a DAVID LYNCH FILM! It is not supposed to make sense. If you want it to make sense, try taking some potent barbiturates with a couple of stiff drinks before viewing to enhance the experience. >I've got the kids this weekend, we just watched Men in >Black II....good fun movie. I'm told it was not as good as the original (big surprise) and since I thought the original was effluent, I think I'll pass. I think I asked this of Curt before, but what does anyone know about ST: Nemesis? Also, anyone seen Equilibrium? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Movie Chat Author: Curt [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:37:38 12/07/02 Sat >>Just started watchin' "Seven Brides for Seven >>Brothers". I've always loved that movie. Right there >>with West Side Story and Oklahoma. I believe you guys >>don't like musicals... >>I've always enjoyed watching them. I like the Rogers and Hammerstein musicals, like "Sound of Music", and "My Fair Lady", and I love the family ones like "Willy Wonka" and the crazy ones like "Little Shop of Horrors." >>By the way, other then John any of you other fucks >>ever watched Mulholland Drive? the David Lynch film? I >>watched it last night and I'd like someone to explain >>some shit to me about what the hell that movie was >>about. I was ok half way through it THEN it got weird >>and its really PISSES me off!! I liked it very much, but still need a second viewing to sort out the twists. And, yes, it is very much a Lynch film. >>I've got the kids this weekend, we just watched Men in >>Black II....good fun movie. I liked it, but it seemed to be only 55 minutes long. It needed a second plot. >I think I asked this of Curt before, but what does >anyone know about ST: Nemesis? Also, anyone seen >Equilibrium? Never heard of Equilibrium, but ST X: Nemesis is supposed to be very very good - even better than that 1969 "Paint Your Wagon" with Clint Eastwood. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Movie Chat Author: Jeff [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:34:48 12/07/02 Sat Thats amazing! I was just gonna say..."Paint your Wagon!" Yes they DO call the wind Mariah. I've also enjoy the musicals Sound of Music, like Curt, and Jesus Christ Superstar, Carousel(sp), Nightmare before Christmas and Phantom. I could NEVER get into CATS or Music Man. Well if you are familiar with M.Falls Curt, then PLEASE explain to me the following cause I'm truly tired of NOT getting his films. 1) What happened after the hot brunette opened up the blue box with the blue key? 2)Whats with the tiny old couple,who were introduced at the beginning of the film, scampering out of the street bum's shopping bag? 3)Why did they come creeping under the blonde woman's door? 4)I understand how the blonde#2, who shot herself and was found, and after the blue box was opened, it turned into a flashback of the blonde woman and what happened to her that caused her to kill herself. What happened to the blonde#1 who was the aspiring actress? Someone give me some freakin' answers!! Oh, by the way...I've heard good and bad about Nemesis. Some say action is great and hot but the magic of the characters is lacking. I understand all the footage bringing back Wil Wheaton was dumped. Others say movie is good fun and a really good ST movie. Equilibrium, I hear is a movie strongly influenced by Farenheit 451, but the director says no way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Movie Chat Author: John [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:13:09 12/08/02 Sun Musicals, eh? This is one area where I'm almost totally outside the loop. Generally I despise musicals, with only a few exceptions. I actually own the DVD of Nightmare Before Christmas. It's very fun, has great animation, and I'm a Danny Elfman fan. Other than that, I have great affection for Fred Astair/Ginger Rogers musicals. I can't explain it, but I've seen them all and I go back and watch them again every few years. I discovered them on TV in childhood and they work for me in some surreal cartoony sense. The other musicals you've all mentioned are, in my opinion, the ultimate form of torture and are quite unendurable for me. Why? Who the fuck knows. Mmmmm, David Lynch. A man after my own psychotic heart. One of my favorite filmmakers. I have the M.Drive DVD. I only wish they would release his previous film, Lost Highway. That's my favorite. Jeff wants answers to M.D. What can I say, Jeff? Isn't it totally obvious to any fool what it all means. Truly, it's so elementary that it would be a waste of time to go over it all. Sorry, I couldn't resist tweaking you for a second. If you demand answers you should refrain from watching Lynch's films. I consider them dream-art. They slip off into the irrational world of the subconscious. The images and motifs resonate to create feelings, atmosphere, and evoke emotions. Yes, the ideas can make you think and often frustrate your conscious mind, but this is much like recalling a dream. I think Lynch is right to not explain his films. Sometimes he slips out hints in interviews, but you won't find a director's commentary on his DVDs. If he turned them into puzzle pieces with set solutions they would lose their mystery. I suspect that you think this is a cop out. I'm not hiding the answers, Jeff. There are some things in each of his films that escape me. But not the parts you asked about. Those are obvious. Sorry, one last jab for the road. :-) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Movie Chat Author: Jeff [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:24:19 12/09/02 Mon As usual John, you are such a prick. :) I want some goddamn answers to that movie!!! Forget Lost Highway - That movie sucked balls! I couldn't figure ANY of it out...it started out cool then made a left turn to the land of mushrooms and Ambien. Lousy fuck. It figures you wouldn't lay it out and give me some answers... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Movie Chat Author: Ken [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:41:02 04/21/03 Mon I know this is an old thread, but what the hell. I figured I'd revive it since I finally got around to seeing some older movies and wanted to comment on them. The Perfect Storm: George Clooney vehicle, a swordboat in this particular instance. I would love to blame Clooney for this, but it seems no one in this film can act, including Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, who I ordinarily don't hate. Diane Lane delivers a pretty solid performance, but the dialogue in this movie is so trite and predictable, it's impossible for any mere actor to rise above it. The film is based on a true story, but you'd never know it from the two-dimensional stock characters and situations festooning the watery thin plot. The ILM special effects steal the show, I'm afraid. A Beautiful Mind: Okay, I was prepared to throw away two and half hours on this one just to watch Jennifer Connelly, who is beautiful, and it did win 4 Oscars after all. But Russell Crowe and (ulp) Ron Howard? {shudder} I have managed to miss (not on purpose) all of Crowe's work and therefore know nothing about him except that he likes to beat up paparazzi. It was Opie that gave me pause, though, as I hated Cocoon and Backdraft and just about everything he has ever done. His direction always seems so self-conscious and heavy-handed and pseudo-epic, like he's trying to outSpielberg Spielberg. In this case, I was very pleasantly surprised. It's a great story, well-dramatized, excellent dialog, beautifully shot, and the casting was spot on, especially Ed Harris as Black Ops Parcher. And Howard finally allows his characters to be real people free from the responsibilities of being superhuman archetypes writ large. He shifts gears kind of rough, but it works somehow, probably because of the unusual subject matter, and he has a light touch when it's called for. Russell Crowe is believable, if not riveting as John Nash. Ed Harris is solid as always. Christopher Plummer is, well, frigging Christopher Plummer! Towers over all of Howard's previous work, in my opinion. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Movie Chat Author: Ken [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:38:36 12/09/02 Mon >>I think I asked this of Curt before, but what does >>anyone know about ST: Nemesis? Also, anyone seen >>Equilibrium? > >Never heard of Equilibrium, but ST X: Nemesis is >supposed to >be very very good - even better than that 1969 "Paint >Your Wagon" >with Clint Eastwood. Djaaah! Paint Your Wagon! Yes, indeed. I thought it was kinda fun. I'll have to see Nemesis, of course. I wondered if you had any juicy inside info on it. Equilibrium is not in wide release. From reviews, I gather it's a pretty well-done budget sci-fi piece mixing elements of Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, and 1984. A future society where people are required to take drugs to dull their senses and emotions. Sense cop forgets his meds one day, flies off the handle, freaks out his partner. High drama and gnashing of teeth ensue. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]