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Subject: Re: Confirm our 2003 reunion

Author:
Jeff

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Date Posted: 09:39:18 01/17/03 Fri
In reply to: John 's message, "Re: Confirm our 2003 reunion" on 21:54:17 01/16/03 Thu

>Sun - Thu is 5 five nights...

No John, I was referring to the entire time together Sun - Thurs. Thats Thursday DAY....Wed. night would be the last night.

I suggest we keep it at meeting Sunday afternoon, stay past WED. night and leave on Thurs.

This will give us more time to NOT cram so much in such short time and allow us to sleep once in awhile. Sunday we will meet, get settled and argue over where to eat dinner, that'll take most the evening....keep in mind, as shy as Ken and Curt are, it'll take some time to get reaccustomed to each other. PLUS we'll be up all fucking night through Monday morning....we will have some time to circle up Monday night and Tues night OR play around Tues night and circle up on Wed. night....which will last til dawn...sleep for a few hrs. then leave on Thursday.

As I remember, Sun - Tues wasn't long enough. If you also consider the time it will take arguing about where to go, what to eat, when to sleep, who is gonna pair off while John gambles etc. etc. I believe Sun-Tues will be a disservice to the group. Why cut it short John? I would think from your letters of missing us that you'd be open to more days. Is there something your not telling us?

I would like to be the first one to state that I would like to enjoy an occasional cigar or pipe with Ken while on the trip. Maybe this time, Ken and I should pair up? Keeping with tradition, I should be trying to sleep while Ken keeps me awake with his fucking jokes!!!

Wait a second, back in 2000, didn't we spend much of the time in one room? I believe we shared the double beds. If cost is an issue, we could all just stay in one room? Or is it best, in order to sleep, for the guys who need to sleep while CURT and whomever else stills keeps going & going & going. Now that I think about it, the benefit of two rooms allows the guys in room #1 to talk about the guys in room #2 :)

If I have a cigar with Ken, even outside...there's a chance I'll smell like bologna...I mean cigar smoke...and I want to respect Curt's sensitivity to it. If its NOT an issue, then when there is time, I'd like to sit outside-maybe by the pool(or on Ken's lap)and smoke a big fat one....THEN have a cigar with Ken.

This time I want to establish some sense of an itinerary...I am asking if ANY man has something in particular that he wants to do to get it on the table so I can write it down. **This does NOT mean that we are going to follow a schedule.....I want to make sure that we aren't sitting on our asses trying to decide WHAT to do..when we could have talked it through months before..I'm not going to go through that BS again...and from what I heard men say from the Prescott trip, the same type of shit took place. So lets STOP the ideal of being spontaneous...since its proven NOT to work well for the group.
Any thoughts, lets hear them.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Days and iteneraries

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John
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Date Posted: 16:56:11 01/17/03 Fri

>As I remember, Sun - Tues wasn't long enough. If you
>also consider the time it will take arguing about
>where to go, what to eat, when to sleep, who is gonna
>pair off while John gambles etc. etc. I believe
>Sun-Tues will be a disservice to the group. Why cut it
>short John? I would think from your letters of missing
>us that you'd be open to more days. Is there something
>your not telling us?

As I remember it, 3 days wasn't enough on the first reunion because we had a lot of catching up to do. We had more than enough time on subsequent meetings. I also want to insure that we have enough time together, but I want to cut down on idle days to save costs of daily room rates and meals.

As for gambling, that really won't be happening unless I hit a big jackpot on a couple of slot pulls because I'm broke and in debt now. On those earlier trips I had zero debt and several hundred in expendable cash.

>Wait a second, back in 2000, didn't we spend much of
>the time in one room? I believe we shared the double
>beds. If cost is an issue, we could all just stay in
>one room?

I think this is a fine idea. Having two rooms is an unnecessary luxury. Maybe we should consider this. Ideally, we wouldn't be couped up in the rooms much to begin with. We just need a place to crash and shower.

>This time I want to establish some sense of an
>itinerary...I am asking if ANY man has something in
>particular that he wants to do to get it on the table
>so I can write it down. **This does NOT mean that we
>are going to follow a schedule.....I want to make sure
>that we aren't sitting on our asses trying to decide
>WHAT to do..when we could have talked it through
>months before..I'm not going to go through that BS
>again...and from what I heard men say from the
>Prescott trip, the same type of shit took place.

What men were heard to utter such balderdash? Let's not even bring up the last reunion because there were too many issues and having an itenerary was not one of them.

If any of you have things you want to do on this trip by all means air them so we can work them in. Some may not agree. If Jeff wants to go bungee jumping, or even more recklessly, eat hot dogs, then you can count me out. Let's see everyone's wish list then. Here is mine:

1. Yak with you guys until our ears burn.
2. Eat at least 1 good meal a day, preferrably 3. Good meaning tasty, not expensive.
3. Drink the occassional beer.
4. Lose the $20 I'm allowing myself to gamble with. That should take about 5 minutes.
5. Take a few walks to see how much has changed in 2 years. I'm sure a lot has. I have no specific places in mind and I think I've seen everything in Vegas I really want to see except for the museum at Belagio.

I still think 3 nights is enough, but if you all want more then we'll do more. Maybe some of you have much longer and more detailed to do lists.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Days of our lives

Author:
Ken
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Date Posted: 17:45:29 01/17/03 Fri

>>As I remember, Sun - Tues wasn't long enough.
>
>As I remember it, 3 days wasn't enough on the first
>reunion because we had a lot of catching up to do. We
>had more than enough time on subsequent meetings. I
>also want to insure that we have enough time together,
>but I want to cut down on idle days to save costs of
>daily room rates and meals.

I was hoping all our days would be idle.

>>Wait a second, back in 2000, we shared the double
>>beds. If cost is an issue, we could all just stay in
>>one room?
>
>I think this is a fine idea. Having two rooms is an
>unnecessary luxury. Maybe we should consider this.

Works for me. Hell, I was prepared to sleep on a wet bathmat at the Polo Towers.

>>This time I want to establish some sense of an
>>itinerary...

>Let's see everyone's wish list then. Here is mine:
>
>1. Yak with you guys until our ears burn.
>2. Eat at least 1 good meal a day, preferrably 3. Good
>meaning tasty, not expensive.
>3. Drink the occassional beer.
>4. Lose the $20 I'm allowing myself to gamble with.
>That should take about 5 minutes.
>5. Take a few walks to see how much has changed in 2
>years. I'm sure a lot has. I have no specific places
>in mind and I think I've seen everything in Vegas I
>really want to see except for the museum at Belagio.

Similar to my agenda, except I won't be gambling at all. My $20 will go to a couple fine meals at an all-you-can-engorge buffet. I'll be checking Vegas and travel sites for ideas, though, and may have more must-do items later.

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