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Subject: Re: Romulan - Imperial scenarios Author: capn hayes [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 14:57:22 11/09/02 Sat Author Host/IP: NoHost/207.14.48.2 In reply to: Warspite 's message, "Re: Romulan - Imperial scenarios" on 09:45:03 11/09/02 Sat >>All of your points can go both ways and be turned >>around on you. can you prove that Han just wasn't >>firing from point blank range since he was firing from >>the cockpit of the falcon and we know how maneuverable >>TIE's are supposed to be, perhaps when he said "almost >>in range" he was refering to optimum range for firing >>from the cockpit repeater controls at a fast, >>maneuverable TIE fighter. > >The TIE was flying in a straight line towards the DS. >Ben said "It's best to let it go, its already too far >out of range." Han said " I think I can get him before >he gets there, he's almost in range". All the evidence >points to the fact that the TIE was out of range, not >just out of optimal range, and arguing otherwise is >pretty desperate. Why do you think it is desperate? I don't. Since we know TIE's are maneuverable enough to avoid targeting locks as seen later in the film when they are fleeing the DS it does make sense that being optimum firing range to ensure a hit would be important. Ben's comment only backs up the point. Despreate indeed. TIE's are maneuverable enough to avoid weapons locks at even short range, and the fire control on the Falcon's quadlasers isn't as good as from the gunports themselves. Now if they had problems hitting TIE's from the gunports, it stands to reason that if the TIE was fired upon and Solo missed it could have turned and entered into a dog fight with the Falcon. A fact that Han was very aware of. So by this Desperate way of thinking I concluded that in all probability what Solo and Ben were refering to is the fact that the TIE was not in (optimum) range for the Falcons fire control system to lock any of he Falcon's weapons systems onto the TIE before it would have had a chance to avoid the lock and out maneuver the Falcon and return fire possibly doing severe damage before the Falcon could react. This is what I obviously didn't explain earlier in a clear enough manner. Sorry for sounding desperate:) > >>I won't crack on the >>Enterprise's really impressive looking maneuverability >>from TOS if you don't crack on TIE's from ANH! > >Where did this come from? I said nothing about the >TIEs manouverability. Actually I don't think its too >bad. This was in reference to earlier wisecracking trekling comments about how TIE's seem to maneuver no better than WW I SPAD's. Considering most scenes with the Enterprise in them shows the ship maneuvering with all the grace and speed of a German zepplin. I know that just because the ships look like they can't maneuver worth crap in some of the older shows and films doesn't really mean that. I sure you do too, but there are some treklings that would try to say how poor TIE's maneuver, because the films they're watching were made before they were born, and they don't apreciate how difficult it was to film effects shots of TIE's or the Enterprise using motion control technology of the day. I mention this because visual effects shots and dialog don't always match up quite right. Star Wars is no better than Star Trek as far as this goes. I will mention a scene from ST:II TWOK to further explain myself, as not seem desperate to anyone. In that scene we are shown the Enterprise fleeing from the Relient adrift dead in space. Khan has inconveinently activated the "Genisis Device" and kill everyone, because he's a crybaby and can't take defeat well. Anyway in one scene on the bridge Kirk asks what their distance from Reliant is. Chekov says 4000 kilometers. In the very next shot of the the Enterprise fleeing we can also see in the distant background with the naked eye thr Reliant! Yes thats right even though the two ships are suppossed to be 2500 miles apart and are only slightly bigger than a modern aircraft carrier. We are able to see them together in the same shot. My reason for mentioning this is because if Star Trek can screw up range then why can't Star Wars be afforded the same luxury! > > [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Re: Romulan - Imperial scenarios Warspite 22:43:01 11/09/02 Sat