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Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM Author: Robert Monike (If Ipatas is a criminal?) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 07:02:21am In reply to: Robert Monike 's message, "Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM" on Sun, May 04 2008, 06:29:05am OK Mr Laka, if that is so then why has not the Engan population ever complained to the electoral commission or to the police? It is because Ipatas symbolises the collapse of papua New Guinea. The Engan Governor is a joke. How can a criminal govern with the express compliance of the Engan population, the police, judiciary and even your church? Because Enga, as well as PNG, has collapsed into a rotting pile of corrupted garbage. The nation of Papua New Guinea is as big a joke as is Ipatas and you know it, Mr Laka. All your kinky religious words do not obfuscate the reality of Ipatas the criminal and Enga the criminal province. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Ipatas puts hands up as an alternative PM Author: Fr. Robert P. Laka, svd (My patriotism) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Mon, May 05 2008, 02:42:59pm Mr. Monike, the problem I have is the problem you have stated in a question which you yourself have answered. I still cannot understand why Engan population cannot stand up against anything fishy like that. Maybe there are more then just simple intellectual logics to be applied in the context of Engan worldviews, or maybe PNG is yet to grasp the nature of traditional leadership style (bigman mentality) to a modern day leadership, (democracy). But that does not negate the possibility of change in Enga and PNG politics. The problem I have though is the way in which the content of my note on the hope I have raised was labeled into some “kinky religious word” into mere confusion. This alone makes my position “obfuscates” the ideologies you have and the realities present in Enga and PNG. The critique of your argument, “Ipatas the criminal and Enga the criminal province” does not reflect the positions of many good Engans have. At the same time, it does not represent my patriotism for Enga as her son to label it as a "criminal province". [ Post a Reply to This Message ]