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Date Posted: 15:03:48 11/03/09 Tue
Author: Paul Davis
Subject: Re: Not all that uninhabitable
In reply to: Jeffman 's message, "Re: Not all that uninhabitable" on 13:37:27 10/30/09 Fri


What I expect to happen is in the nature of a conventional war laced with occasional use of nuclear weapons, not a suicide pact of mutual destruction across the world.

If India invades Pakistan, if North Korea and China fight, if North Korea invades South Korea, if the border disputes between China and Iran heat up - any of these could cause a major incursion into someones territory and what can the world say if a country that is invaded uses nukes on the invading army? That they can't use nuclear weapons to defend themselves in any way? That seems unlikely to me.

It's going to be a new war and a new warfare, and it will not be fought as past wars were.

>Depends on the nature of what happens. Yes as you say
>the human race might continue in some areas but others
>might end up being fairly unihabitable. Humans can
>live through much of that pretty much problem free. My
>dad was one of many that were flown through mushroom
>clouds in the 50's when they were experimenting in the
>Atoll islands. He was over there for about 3 years I
>believe. Most of it is still highly classified. But he
>lived to his 70's and got lung cancer from smoking.
>
>>Given the practical experience from Chernoybl, it
>>appears the alarms about "zero tolerance for
>>radiation" in humans and other animals is greatly
>>exaggerated.
>>
>>Evidently, the major effect from chernoybl was thyroid
>>cancer, which could have been prevented simply by
>>adding potassium iodide to food, thus preventing the
>>concentration of radioiodide in the thyroid.
>>
>> >>href="http://www.lancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PI
>I
>>S1470-2045(02)00727-1/abstract">http://www.lancet.com/
>j
>>ournals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(02)00727-1/abstra
>c
>>t
>>
>>It's just damned hard for people to give up a
>>preconception that's been sold so hard for so many
>>years, but it's just true. Radiation exposure, if you
>>avoid EATING isotopes, is not that harmful till you
>>reach plainly damaging dosages.
>>
>>
>>>But the world has been at war ...... pretty much
>since
>>>the world existed..in one way or the other. Whats
>>>dangerous now is the capability to kill on a massive
>>>scale with nuclear weapons and then leave whats left
>>>unihabitable by human kind.
>>>
>>>>Often and almost always I find this huge skepticism
>>>>about a big war coming. People just don't want to
>>>>believe it will happen, so they just say I'm a
>>>>warmonger or a fool or they ignore me.
>>>>
>>>>So I ask them to do this.
>>>>
>>>>Think about the world situation for a minute.
>>Killing
>>>>in the name of God happens all across Europe and
>Asia
>>>>and Africa every day. Palestine and Israel are at
>>war
>>>>to all intents. Pakistan is at war with the
>>Taliban.
>>>>China had over 80,000 disturbances (riots) the last
>>>>year they were willing to give an official number.
>>>>North Korea and Iran are launching missiles, China
>is
>>>>demonstrating home grown weapons systems, including
>>>>systems designed specifically to go around US
>>defenses
>>>>(Silkworm missile) and is facing extreme ethnic
>>>>pressure internally (Uighar among others) and Africa
>>>>is a mess, as always. How many of those situations
>>>>could lead to regional war that grows to massive
>>war?
>>>>For that matter, war between Pakistan and India
>would
>>>>involve more than a billion people, doesn't that
>>>>qualify as a massive war all by itself? Think about
>>>>those situations.
>>>>
>>>>Now, think about peace. How many scenarios can you
>>>>write that lead to world war, and how many that lead
>>>>to peace - and be realistic, don't make me laugh at
>>>>you.
>>>>
>>>>When there isn't any road to peace, there will be
>>war.

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