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Date Posted: 06:01:21 03/01/11 Tue
Author: Jeffman
Subject: Re: I notice C-PAC is up and running
In reply to: shirley 's message, "Re: I notice C-PAC is up and running" on 19:04:52 02/28/11 Mon

I agree..... There are so many excesses out there that need to be reined in. Outsourcing of jobs to other countries, outsourcing public sector to private sector and then no accountability for the private sector. The collective bargaining (unions) have two extremes. Either they are ineffective or they are putting companies out of business and bankrupting the States. In Wisconsin, the unions have not been willing to concede many things that would make the state more able to balance budgets. Things like 401's where for every dollar put in the state puts in 48. Unions have a place but they tend to get overboard much the same way as business does with what they want. Like GM having an agreement to give someone 90% of their salary if they are laid off until such time as they get a new job. Well not much incentive to get a new job with that kind of deal. Lay me off tomorrow please!

All the party leaders are smoking crack these days with the spending and what they are spending on.


>Well, Jeff, the party leaders said they already had
>plans on paper to solve all the ills (promises,
>right?) except they still haven't released them--such
>as Ryan's proposals on the economy. What I've seen so
>far is that they're rubber stamping what Obama has
>already proposed in budget cuts. Boehner, Cantor and
>Ryan have talked about their plans every time they
>could find an open mic. Look, pure and simple, there
>are a lot of government programs I'd like to see
>eliminated. Why are we still subsidising tobacco
>when they're trying to wipe out smoking? That's
>ludicrous. The subsidies to farmers are also a joke.
>Big corporations are now able to get those subsidies
>when it should be restricted to small family farmers
>when they lose crops due to floods or droughts. ITT
>also gets federal money for stuff that no longer
>exists. Instead of endless jawing by pols who don't
>know their behinds from a hole in the ground, why
>don't they get down to business and cut genuine waste
>in programs that are obsolete?
>
>There are presently 237 millionaire members of
>congress. These are the folks that make our laws. Do
>you really think they're going to vote for any laws
>that would be against their own best interest? The
>middle class has seen stagnent salaries for years yet
>congressional leaders give themselves raises year
>after year and they're NOT tied to cost of living
>increases. That what SS recipients have to live with.
>Have you seen any of those millionaire congressional
>members give up that $!40,000 (plus all the perks)
>salary during this recession? After all, that would
>hardly reduce them to poverty level.
>
>Republicans have vowed to shut down the government and
>blithely say cutting a million jobs is no big deal.
>Really? That's a million who won't be paying state and
>local taxes. That's a million who will be added to the
>unemployment rolls and hence will be collecting
>unemployment checks. They say current SS and VA
>recipients will continue receiving their checks but
>those now applying won't be covered. A little reminder
>if you please. Our grandson, Brian, finished his
>12-year service as a Marine two weeks ago and moved
>back home. The VA sent his records to San Diego where
>he formerly lived and he's been on the phone every day
>trying to get them sent to Chicago, a 45 minute drive
>from here. If or when the Republicans shut down our
>government, Brian won't receive his benefits. This is
>our thanks for three tours in Iraq, This will cut him
>off from treatment for hearing loss in one ear,
>shrapnel which still hasn't be removed and a shoulder
>injury which hasn't been treated yet. How do you feel
>about that?
>
>Today's NY Times used Indiana as an example of the
>"Great" success achieved through Bush's our man Mitch"
>Daniels' eliminating collective bargaining for state
>workers. There's another side to that story. Daniels
>outsourced our expressways to a foreign company. Road
>repairs have not been kept up, tolls are under
>question and fewer people are using the toll road. He
>outsourced assessor's to a Chicago CPA firm which
>resulted in thousands of appeals because of faulty
>assessments and it eventually ended up in the courts.
>The CPA firm was fired and assessments had to be done
>all over. He outsourced the welfare system to another
>CPA firm and they also ended up getting fired for
>mismanagement and Daniels had to bring back a whole
>lot of those fired government-hired employees. Indiana
>property owners are now being taxed more and big
>businesses paying less.
>
>I've cited LTV's bankruptcy before but for those not
>in the know, here's the story. Employees of LTV lost
>ALL of their benefits--pensions, health insurance and
>everything else they had been promised, regardless how
>long they had worked for LTV. The CEO walked away with
>a multi-million dollar golden parachute after an only
>two-year tenure with LTV in which he made one bad
>decision after another which drove the company into
>bankruptcy. How would you feel if you had a serious
>illness/disease and too young to qualify for SS, lost
>your health care, then your home and then bankruptcy,
>then welfare, then food banks?
>
>Let's not forget who drove us into this ditch. Two
>UNFUNDED wars. Two UNFUNDED tax cuts. An UNFUNDED
>prescription drug plan in which they lied lied about
>the projected cost which has been far greater than
>they predicted and which gave Tom DeLay a prison term.
>Who benefitted from that? The insurance companies and
>pharmacueticals.
>
>They claim in interest in creating jobs yet they've
>introduced nothing that would create jobs. Pence
>(R-IN) introduced a bill about abortions. They don't
>worry about a million losing their jobs. They don't
>worry about the deficit--they want more tax cuts and
>God forbid that the tax code be simplified and
>rewritten. They also facilitated outsourcing OUR jobs
>to China. Anyone watch "60 Minutes" last night? China
>is not only reaping big dividends from our outsourcing
>but they're bribing and blackmailing our government
>employees into giving them all our weaponry and
>security secrets--classified documents. the FBI has
>caught some along with their complicent US
>intelligence employees but how many are still out
>there? As far as I'm concerned, all those US
>companies who moved to China should be tried for
>aiding and abetting.
>
>There's REAL work to be done but I don't see anyone
>stepping up to do it. More fun to jaw and think only
>about getting reelected.

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