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Date Posted:05:56:14 02/10/03 Mon Author: RachelX Author Host/IP: isa.uwic.ac.uk / 193.62.97.11 Subject: OK, this is the longest thread ever! (Or, it will be with a bit of luck!)
Reply to this thread and only this thread! Do not start a new one! I want a blooming page long thread, ok? OK??? good! Enjoy your day!
Last night the wind blew at up to 50 mph and we had a phenomena here called snow rollers... our snow rollers were up to a foot in diameter. There are 'fields' of them in the back yard, side yard, and in each corn field on either side of the road. Some out in the corn fields look even bigger. One in the back yard is actually hollow like a donut, you can look right through it!
Well, I am posting, although I have absolutely nothing to contribute, except that...
I FUCKING HATE ENGLISH WEATHER!!!!!!
Damn, why can't I be in South Africa right now, or America, although I have to ask, has anybody bought their Emergency Survival Kit yet???? Hahaha! Only Bush could say that! (Sorry, I HATE Bush with a passion, bring back Bill Clinton) Anyway, I hate living in Britain, although the women here are nice *stares at the only Brit here (I think!!), that being RachelX (I didn't forget the X!!! Whoohoo!)*, hopefully I will get on a Uni course that sends me to U.S.!!
well, surfing the Net... washing dishes... vacuuming... counting birds for the National Survey...
What do you wish you were doing?
Holding an exciting woman close, just letting the heat build ever so slowly, till it boils over in an extraordinary moment of lustful passion....
Are you in a good mood?
Fairly good... been a bit queasy all day...
What color are your socks?
barefoot
How many people have said "Yes!" to you today and why?
probably 2... inconsequential reasons in the schema of my happiness, though.....
Describe your current surroundings.
House on a hill in some trees surrounded by 5 acres of lawn, that surrounded by hardwood forest and fallow fields....
Are you pissed at someone right now?
nope.... just sorta concerned....
Where in the world would you like to live, if possible?
......always had a yen to settle down on a trout/salmon stream just up from the coastal fjords of Canada's British Columbia or the Alaskan Panhandle....
What was your favorite toy as a child?
jeesh... so long ago.... uh.... tinkertoys?
Are you a cat person, a dog person or an ant-farm person?
I've had cats and I have had dogs.... would like to have a cat again but mom's allergic to either....
Do you pick your nose?
uh.... yes.... *sob* *sniffle* *pick* ....please help me! Is there a PA around (pickers anonymous)?
Have you ever gotten into jail?
...yes...
Do you like moshing?
we did a form of that over 40 years ago, fun then (non-violent), but now..... no!
What's your opinion on Marilyn Manson?
*yawn*
How many people do you count amoung your close friends?
3
What was the last thing you ate?
Salmon Croquettes with Dirty Jasmine Rice and French-Cut Green Beans with Mint-Lemon Tea.
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Sure.... my salmon croquette meal seems to be popular, and I promise..... -- Lijdrec, 16:01:18 02/14/03 Fri(oc-nas-04-s181.cinergycom.net/216.135.22.181)
...........that your sweet nectar will calm my my nervous stomach....;-.)
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L.E.T. her cry, L.E.T. the tears fall down like rain... -- A.P., 17:45:23 02/14/03 Fri(209-6-136-134.s134.tnt1.mnch.nh.dialup.rcn.com/209.6.136.134)
What are you doing?
Sitting alone watching TV and playing online.
What do you wish you were doing?
Having sex with a beautiful woman. Emma Caulfield would do.
Are you in a good mood?
Nope.
What color are your socks?
White.
How many people have said "Yes!" to you today and why?
None, I'm no yes-man.
Describe your current surroundings.
It's my bed/living room in my apartment. computer desk, couch, bed, TV, bookshelves, dressers, etc.
Are you pissed at someone right now?
Yes, the senior administration where I work. Also, I've got lots of grudges, do those count?
Where in the world would you like to live, if possible?
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Re: To liven up the LET (longest ever thread): A POLL!!!! -- Lolly, 04:21:14 02/15/03 Sat(NoHost/205.208.168.231)
What are you doing? I am answering a poll, listening to matchbox twenty's more than you think you are, and shivering.
What do you wish you were doing?
Well all except the shivering what I'm doing is better than what I have been doing, but I wish I was with all my friends who have moved away because I really have been missing them lately.
Are you in a good mood?
Mostly. My littlest bro. is sick and I'm cold and sleepy, but otherwise yeah i'm in a good mood.
What color are your socks?
Well these ones are White. But I'm the queen of socks so this boring white is unusual.
How many people have said "Yes!" to you today and why?
well when I asked my mom is she wanted me to put my pukey bro. to sleep she said Yes! and it was one of the most emphatic yeses ever.
Describe your current surroundings.
I'm the Living Room, sitting at my messy desk with my messy comp. on it. It varies between hot and cold making me sweat and/or shiver and their is only one activity that I enjoy participating in that makes me both sweat and shiver and poll answering isn't it. the doors to the entertainment stand are all open, and both my dogs are sleeping.
Are you pissed at someone right now?
I'm always pissed at my best friend's boyfriend, but otherwise no.
Where in the world would you like to live, if possible?
Ireland. It's beautiful.
What was your favorite toy as a child?
My barbies. They were my friends.
Are you a cat person, a dog person or an ant-farm person?
Cats definately. Dogs generally scare me and ants are bugs which are gross.
Do you pick your nose?
Who doesn't?
Have you ever gotten into jail?
Once. And it was a little thing. As rebellious teenagers went I was kinda square.
Do you like moshing?
Never done it. I'm a moshing virgin.
What's your opinion on Marilyn Manson?
He seemed to be a dork as a kid, so I can see where he might be craving attention now and as long as he stays far away from me I don't care.
How many people do you count amoung your close friends?
3 in "real life" 2 on line
What was the last thing you ate? ummmm.... cinnamon roll at twoish yesterday i think.
The 3 inches of ice and then 4 inches of snow that we had a few days ago has compacted a bit.... I was chipping some of it off of my porch and found that the ice underneath had taken on a blue cast. In a way it looked as if the ice glowed blue...
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I have decided I kinda like it here! -- Kim *hoping someone cares*, 01:17:44 02/23/03 Sun(c66.169.131.38.ts46v-06.otn-b2.ftwrth.tx.charter.com/66.169.131.38)
Good morning everyone! Hope your Sunday is a productive or lazy as you want it to be.
As a child I used to watch the Ed Sullivan show on Sunday nights.... while it was a "really goooood shooooee" as Ed would say (hey, first saw the Beatles there) there was this feeling that accompanied it that tomorrow was another day of school. Odd, but every time some show mentions Ed Sullivan I get that feeling of dread about going back to school again....
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Well it's ok for those who are getting Buffy! Though i think i converted a housemate the other night! -- RachelX, 04:15:37 02/26/03 Wed(isa.uwic.ac.uk/193.62.97.11)
There's nothing inherently wrong with the pancakes other than their rather dubious choice in company. I've really got nothing at all to say about them. I like my paragraphs to at least look impressive on the skim-through, so I'd really hate to have to end this one so soon. My hope is that you're not really reading the article, moreover just scanning through while looking at the pictures and judging how good the article must be based on the general length of the paragraphs you skip. If that's the case, it affords me the chance to type totally off-topic, random words just for the sake of making this bitch seem lengthy. I mean, goldfish lamp wallpaper skeleton in my Bavarian Star or what? Flowers mirror computer Smurfs every time Moses flies playing cards in or around Paris. Oh, now to make a paragraph-ending sentence that makes the rest appear like it was consequential. That bacon was really greasy!
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that's certainly new.... a pair of crotchless panties as a bra.... -- Lijdrec, 06:23:59 03/04/03 Tue(oc-nas-04-s104.cinergycom.net/216.135.22.104)
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Except, of course, -- Wwbd, 08:58:10 03/05/03 Wed(NoHost/12.146.161.76)
they are not board goddesses - they are Virgin Board Queens and therefore, they will behead you. And make you live in the dungeon for a while. Just long enough for you to not be able to see the finale of either Buffy or Angel. And at a level of surprise that you won't get your VCRs set up in time.
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And since you're both on dial up -- Wwbd, 09:00:28 03/05/03 Wed(NoHost/12.146.161.76)
You will have to wait the agonizing 22 weeks before you see the reruns because it would take that same amount of time to download them with dial up as to wait for the rerun.
.......Spring Fever! It may be worse than the cases of Fall Fever that I get (in the Fall, of course) because I am coming off of this bad cold.... AND I FEEL GREAT..... and I'm horny and dammit there's no one around to take it out on!!!
You know what happens to my unresolved Spring Fever? I start dreaming of mushrooms, guess tomorrow I'll have to take a long walk through the woods even if it is a little to early for mushrooms....
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Bullshit...and I used the heart icon because I just wanted to see it....:-.) -- Lijdrec, 19:15:09 03/17/03 Mon(oc-nas-04-s37.cinergycom.net/216.135.22.37)
Hard to port! Slashy things ter come and yer all gunna par-ti-cee-pat-iee! Go scare a nun, ya cuban heel! Hard to port, head to dick! Yer mum is spinnin in er grave!
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so much blood... -- nadia, 11:08:22 03/28/03 Fri(NoHost/194.153.188.3)
it's fucking everywhere. this blood on my hands is my own and it won't wash off. why does it have to be like this? if there is a god i hate him. why has he forsaken us? fuck, it hurts so bad. it won't stop. it won't stop it won't stop it won't stop it won't stop it won't
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Which, of course, makes his good morning post from below false advertising. -- Wwbd, 07:15:53 04/17/03 Thu(user-0c8hfcs.cable.mindspring.com/24.136.189.156)
.....anything I said pre-post to Phae's breakfast question of 'what's up with everyone' was what I believed to be true. My life changed that morning, or maybe re-started. I have always been truthful on the boards as far as my life was concerned.
So if you come to Kim's.... I'll give you a lift, but just realize that it may not be reciprocated! Actually, still a bit wondering about that, how gay am I? Is there a spectrum that would allow a woman in my life? Ever since that morning, it's quite odd - ok queer(!), but it just felt like all or nothing for me....
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I think you're gonna have to take yourself out for a test run. -- Wwbd, 07:25:30 04/18/03 Fri(user-0c8hfcs.cable.mindspring.com/24.136.189.156)
Not to in any way trivialize your self discovery, but I think you need to treat it like a new car and take yourself out and test all of your newly discovered features.
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It was orange earlier. Now it's lime green. -- natas *putting down beer* *shakes head*, 21:14:32 05/02/03 Fri(adsl-208-191-4-65.adsl.okcyok.swbell.net/208.191.4.65)
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Put.Down.The .Beer. -- t007 Here, have a shot of Bushmills. All is well., 21:23:21 05/02/03 Fri(dialup-67.75.195.213.Dial1.Seattle.Level3.net/67.75.195.213)
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On Sex and Catholicism -- Lijdrec, Bishop of Death!, 00:29:08 06/03/03 Tue(oc-nas-04-s59.cinergycom.net/216.135.22.59)
Sex and the City – Of God
By John P. Blessington
Maybe it’s just me, but I’m starting to think sex and religion do not mix. It’s not just the Roman Church or Christianity that struggles with sex; Jews and Muslims do as well. It is likely that all religions are lost in this desert.
Born with a drive to procreate, God’s law of nature has made it a pleasure center, an exciting drive. So little is said about pleasure within our faith, we have to hunt for it here and there. Too often, sex is spoken of in such high tones and lofty words, it little resembles what we feel or what actions we take when we are acting sexually.
This is not an article about sexual mechanics—I’m too Irish for that. Here I wish to ask: Do you see what I see? Do you see a disconnect between our sexual realities and the way we approach it within our religions? In the name of orthodoxy, we have sanctioned killing for adultery. Of course, it was mostly the women who were to be killed—you know how they go about tempting us poor guys. Within our Church, sex is always spoken of as love, the begetting of children, and the love of each other attached to the love of God. There is more incense than perfume in the air. The organic becomes spiritual and the organic is not seen or heard of again. The bed disappears and heavenly music surrounds the topic.
We canonize virgins at a fair clip, but we have few married saints. Maybe having a spouse and children decreases our virtue, although the mother of 10 was spoken of as saintly. Praised, but not canonized. As Christians, we’ve elevated sexual purity to an unequal virtue, condemning sins of the flesh that are sexual above the other sins of the flesh. I suspect we simply do not know what to do about our organic sexuality. We believe it comes from God, but question what God had in mind; no sex, no people. But then virginity and celibacy are often deemed the highest of callings. However, if we all answer that call, we will be back down to just Adam and Eve, and like our Shaker cousins, we will go out of business.
Dare we try for a new set of insights? Can we accept the organic and hard driven business of sexual attraction as both a path to expressing our interdependence and our need to bond? If we accept this as part of God’s design, we may have to accept some other aspects as well. We may have to teach our children the important moral and social value of the Commandments, while also addressing our appetites and pleasures. And we may have to frame sexuality in terms that encompass the mechanics and cautions, but also speak of sex in terms of justice and charity as well.
As for single people, young and old, or divorced or widowed, we may have to open our minds to the nature of our sex drives not being harbored only within marriage. There is virtue in love, and we ought not to deny its presence when it is there. And while we may be confused by same-sex love, I know I see it in dear friends. I grew up rejecting it and subjecting some to cruel jokes, but I am no longer that ignorant. Do I understand why some men are drawn to men and women to women? No. But I now share with many other people of faith and morality a need to back up and listen with respect and leave it to God to explain what is, clearly, a different call within nature. Science reveals we are neither male nor female at the start in the womb. Then nature sets our course and it is obvious that not all of our nature is understood.
In the City of God, we are what we are; but in this temporal city we need to be humble and accepting of our sexual nature and of those around us. Then we will be a purer minded religion and maybe freer to be happy.
John P. Blessington is a freelance executive producer for CBS Television, cultural and religious unit. An educator, author, husband and grandfather, he lives in Cos Cob, Conn.
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Re: OK, this is the longest thread ever! (Or, it will be with a bit of luck!) -- me again, 10:19:19 07/10/03 Thu(c68.184.185.77.ts46v-06.otn-b2.ftwrth.tx.charter.com/68.184.185.77)
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an open letter -- G, 11:51:22 07/28/03 Mon(proxy.senselan.ch/194.153.188.3)
Alain, you are the sweetest, bestest, nicest person and I'm so sorry, so goddamn sorry that I can't love you the way you deserve.
I cling to you and I feel like I'm being stifled at the same time. I'm moody and easily vexed and I drive everyone close to me crazy. I'm beginning to think I rushed into it because I needed affection like that. I needed someone to be there for me that way, instead of all those empty, fruitless one-night-stands that just kept wearing me down, just kept making it all worse. I needed someone. But as much as it hurts me to say this, you're not the one I would've picked for the job. You aren't.. him.
I love you so much, we've gotten close so fast and I wish I could make myself feel the way you do; I'd do it in a heatbeat if it were possible. But I can't change, I never could and I just wish that we'd have stayed friends. I love being with you, but at the end of the day, I get my warmth from the thought that my man loves me, and not from the realization that it's you.
I'm tired of being alone. But I can't open up and I'm already hurting too much and I don't want to lead you on. You know I'll only make it hard for you, all those constant moody up and downs, all those issues... You know where those scars come from, you know it won't ever be easy with me. But you can't empathize when I listen to music so poignant that it brings me to tears. You don't share that part with me and that's just too important for me to ignore. And I can't give you what you need and you can't give me what I need and