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Date Posted: 20:22:04 11/08/00 Wed
Author: William Bevington
Subject: Re: Politics
In reply to: [Politics] 's message, "Politics" on 20:19:41 11/08/00 Wed

Lots to respond to here!

Quick thoughts:

A test at the island entrance is too easy to "fake" and unreliable, maybe a whole outer ring witch is a culture unto itself? The people could be aquadiems "serving" (like jury duty or army enlistment) as "observers" of new arrivals.

Your "two rules" are very good though, your rule 1 is really 2 rules (faith in others + balance in self)

How is this determined?, faith is by definition "belief in the unseen or unproven"

Marriage thing a bit vague, if it is that vague we simply do not mention it at all.

Sending children out into the real world is pretty cool. If they get in trouble do we send another citizen to help them? Or are they completely onm their own, what if they meet someone and want to take them to utopia -- do we smuggle people in? How do aquadiems know how to return since the ROW (rest of world) cannot find there way into utopia?

Keep thinking sounds good

WB

> [Politics]
> Rule #1: (The Golden Rule) Putting faith in other
> people, and finding balance in oneself.
> Rule #2: People have the freedom to leave this
> society.
>
> Immigration Process & Population Control:
> *In order to enter the island(Utopia), the individuals
> will need to go through a series of tests. (We are
> proposing a maze around Utopia, with four different
> entrances (north,south, west east). There will be
> tests set up on different areas of the maze.) They
> will be tested on virtues such as humanity,
> generosity, love, kindness, self-control, faith,
> temperance, and zeal. The test will show how they
> react to earthly goods, their mental state, and human
> relationship. Once they pass the tests, they will be
> lead into Utopia. If they fail, they will never come
> in contact with the natives of the island; rather,
> they will be lead off the island. (Method of exporting
> people is up to the technology group!)
> *Not only newcomers will be tested, but also everyone
> in the Utopian society gets to be tested every tidal
> cycle (18.6 yr.). This is a method of population
> control, as well as a friendly reminder of people�s
> basic virtues.
> *These tests are designed by a committee (we�re
> thinking about 7 persons, but the number can be change
> according to the time system, but it should be an odd
> number). Committees are selected by a random number
> system. Each person in Utopia will be assigned a
> number when they reach a tidal cycle (18.6 years). The
> committee only holds power for 28 days, a lunar cycle.
> Since it is the people in the Utopia who design these
> tests, the extremity of the tests will be directly
> related to the mental state of Utopian people. This
> will also encourage the general public to participate
> in decision making for the good of the Utopia society.
>
> Marriage
> *Freedom of choice.
> *No marriage as we know it, it is more like commitment
> and understanding between people
> *We are proposing that any kind of marriage/commitment
> is fine.
>
> Government System
> *When a problem/situation comes about, people will
> form groups base on their believes and interests.
> Within one interest group, people select or vote for a
> spokesperson to represent them.
> *Within many different spokespersons, they have to
> resolve the situation by discussing, voting, or other
> communication processes.
>
> Questions for:
>
> [Technology]
> *What is the protective system around Utopia? Since
> there are three bodies of water enclosing Utopia, can
> there be magnetic fields, which will disable all
> sailing equipment and aircrafts from discovering the
> Utopia?
> *What kind of technologies will be available for
> fighting diseases? How do we secure the natives from
> incoming people? (We don�t want any cloning because we
> want to preserve the personality of the individuals.
> There needs to be a balance of positive and negative
> human traits.)
>
> [Education]
> *What is the method of education? If teens need to go
> see the outside world, how will they be educated, and
> by who? (We suggested that kids will be sent away at
> the age of .5 tidal cycle to experience the outside
> world. This is because we believe that in order to
> understand and enjoy Utopia, one have to go thought
> dytopia first. Kids will be brought back to the Utopia
> at 1 tidal cycle and go thought these tests as any new
> incomers. They may not be able to come back or they
> may choose to live in the outside world.) And how does
> education continues after they come back to Utopia?.)
> And does the education continues after they come back
> to Utopia?
>
> [Language]
> *We are imposing a voting system for government. What
> means of interaction/communication are there?

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