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Date Posted: 29/12/09 9:52:06pm
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: I would rather be "liked" for who I am than "esteemed" for conforming
In reply to: Billy 's message, "Re: cast not your pearls before swine" on 29/12/09 9:37:56pm

that all sounds very healthy, Billy.

maybe it wouldn't surprise you to hear that when I first left and started meeting former members like Nigel Lavender and John Everett, I felt I was meeting them as real people for the first time. It was like (in those days anyway) that the "putting to death of the old man" meant that nobody in the fellowship was a complete person anymore....and you only felt their humanity (their real character, interests, humour and WARMTH) when you met them outside.

People were so used to having to "check things out" before expressing a point of view or making a decision that they had stopped being whole people.

And I know this will make some say, "well that was the whole point. We weren't meant to have hobbies" but it is when you see people at play, playing football or whatever, that you can really get to like people for who they are.

I would rather be "liked" for who I am than "esteemed" for conforming

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Replies:

is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/12/09 9:55:15pm

Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Same Old Story, 30/12/09 7:19:30am

Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Billy, 30/12/09 1:32:04pm
- awareness of "mistakes" -- Peter Eveleigh, 30/12/09 2:27:14pm

Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- John Smith, 30/12/09 10:06:28am

Jesus Army Bible -- John Smith, 30/12/09 10:24:47am
- Re: Jesus Army Bible -- Billy, 30/12/09 1:49:27pm
  - Re: Jesus Army Bible -- John Smith, 30/12/09 2:05:32pm
    - Re: Jesus Army Bible -- Billy, 30/12/09 2:29:51pm
Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Billy, 30/12/09 1:39:44pm
- Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- John Smith, 30/12/09 1:57:00pm
  - Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Billy, 30/12/09 2:10:26pm
    - Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- John Smith, 30/12/09 2:27:57pm
      - Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Billy, 30/12/09 2:34:32pm
        Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- John Smith, 30/12/09 2:41:35pm
        Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Peter Eveleigh, 30/12/09 2:41:49pm
        Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Billy, 31/12/09 4:32:24pm
        Happy New Year -- Peter Eveleigh, 31/12/09 6:07:19pm
        Re: Happy New Year -- Billy, 18/01/10 10:51:43am

Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision -- Billy, 30/12/09 1:25:30pm

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>that all sounds very healthy, Billy. > >maybe it wouldn't surprise you to hear that when I >first left and started meeting former members like >Nigel Lavender and John Everett, I felt I was meeting >them as real people for the first time. It was like >(in those days anyway) that the "putting to death of >the old man" meant that nobody in the fellowship was a >complete person anymore....and you only felt their >humanity (their real character, interests, humour and >WARMTH) when you met them outside. > >People were so used to having to "check things out" >before expressing a point of view or making a decision >that they had stopped being whole people. > >And I know this will make some say, "well that was the >whole point. We weren't meant to have hobbies" but it >is when you see people at play, playing football or >whatever, that you can really get to like people for >who they are. > >I would rather be "liked" for who I am than "esteemed" >for conforming
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