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Date Posted: 29/11/09 4:12:33pm
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: The roots of Sarah's problems in "the world" were in the JA
In reply to: Sarah Hughes 's message, "Earned my badge...and survived" on 15/11/09 1:08:45am

>I've been in this church on and off for 34 yr's...
>Been there done it and got the video in between.
>Talked to Pete E, read all the arguments and done all
>the human emotions... All i can say is.. GOD IS IN
>CONTROL. I went through awful times as a teen, did my
>time, and lived through it.. as alot of my friends,
>still close to me now.. But through all the things i
>thought were solutions, drink, drugs, sex, bulimia,
>anorexia, self harming... My God proved faithful. Not
>my upbringing, not the Jesus Army, not my parents..
>but God. He proved he was real to me, not religion,
>but a personal experience. I could be Jane Cook now
>and have people blaming the church.. thought about
>suicide many a time. Also been very bitter towards
>church, but after all my "trying out the world".. I
>felt empty, and all i hurt was myself. I choose to go
>back, and i wouldn't change my world for the beckhams
>:) I choose to go to the Jesus Army, after being very
>hurt, i am not brainwashed or stupid..I just love a
>God who delivered me from a life of crap, and who i
>have a personal experience with.. I'm far from perfect
>and have to use my will not to return to a messed up
>person but that is my choice, and with free will i
>answer to God alone one day, not Jesus Army.. i just
>choose to be in a church that i have seen change,
>repent and admit where it went wrong. Its all about
>forgiveness and moving on.. We do it all the time as
>humans, why is it different in this case? God didn't
>screw up, Jesus Army didn't screw up.. INDIVIDUALS
>screwed up..

I don't think I read this carefully enough, but I think it is a sad story, where a girl who was put through hell in community, went out into the world and because of all she had been through, couldn't handle life. You don't have to have a JA childhood to end up fcuked up, but that was the case here.

And the saddest thing is that she sees the JA now as her solution...and sees the outside world as the source of the problem.

She is like a battered wife who will tell you that her absusive husband is misunderstood and has begged her forgiveness and will never hurt her again.

"Jesus Army didn't screw up.. INDIVIDUALS
screwed up". Are members of the JA not individuals, and the JA not the body of christ? When people are harmed by the heavy-handed shepherding of its most senior members, it is just plain dishonest for the church to wash its hands of their elders' actions.

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Re: The roots of Sarah's problems in "the world" were in the JA -- Sarah Hughes, 1/12/09 4:16:17pm

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>>I've been in this church on and off for 34 yr's... >>Been there done it and got the video in between. >>Talked to Pete E, read all the arguments and done all >>the human emotions... All i can say is.. GOD IS IN >>CONTROL. I went through awful times as a teen, did my >>time, and lived through it.. as alot of my friends, >>still close to me now.. But through all the things i >>thought were solutions, drink, drugs, sex, bulimia, >>anorexia, self harming... My God proved faithful. Not >>my upbringing, not the Jesus Army, not my parents.. >>but God. He proved he was real to me, not religion, >>but a personal experience. I could be Jane Cook now >>and have people blaming the church.. thought about >>suicide many a time. Also been very bitter towards >>church, but after all my "trying out the world".. I >>felt empty, and all i hurt was myself. I choose to go >>back, and i wouldn't change my world for the beckhams >>:) I choose to go to the Jesus Army, after being very >>hurt, i am not brainwashed or stupid..I just love a >>God who delivered me from a life of crap, and who i >>have a personal experience with.. I'm far from perfect >>and have to use my will not to return to a messed up >>person but that is my choice, and with free will i >>answer to God alone one day, not Jesus Army.. i just >>choose to be in a church that i have seen change, >>repent and admit where it went wrong. Its all about >>forgiveness and moving on.. We do it all the time as >>humans, why is it different in this case? God didn't >>screw up, Jesus Army didn't screw up.. INDIVIDUALS >>screwed up.. > > >I don't think I read this carefully enough, but I >think it is a sad story, where a girl who was put >through hell in community, went out into the world and >because of all she had been through, couldn't handle >life. You don't have to have a JA childhood to end up >fcuked up, but that was the case here. > >And the saddest thing is that she sees the JA now as >her solution...and sees the outside world as the >source of the problem. > >She is like a battered wife who will tell you that her >absusive husband is misunderstood and has begged her >forgiveness and will never hurt her again. > >"Jesus Army didn't screw up.. INDIVIDUALS >screwed up". Are members of the JA not individuals, >and the JA not the body of christ? When people are >harmed by the heavy-handed shepherding of its most >senior members, it is just plain dishonest for the >church to wash its hands of their elders' actions.
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