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Date Posted: 08:59:25 10/08/02 Tue
Author: Nathan DuBois
Subject: Re: Question #1
In reply to: Pastor Reckart 's message, "Re: Question #1" on 10:30:12 10/01/02 Tue

>PFP wrote: "The Bible, and therefore preterism,
>teaches that the time of the Temple's destruction was
>the fulfillment of �All things written (Luke
>21:20-22)."
>
>Response: Another lie on the Bible. Preterism may
>and does teach this lie, but the Word of God does not
>teach it. It must be fabricated, constructed from
>man's theories, and spiritualized in a form of
>gnosticism for it to even exist.

My Response:
Since you obviously need to have us post the verses and not the reference, I will do that here.
Luke 21:20
"But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. (Spoken by Christ around 30 AD. Fulfilled by the Romans in 67-70 AD).
The Roman army surrounded Jerusalem 3 times during the war beginning in 67 AD. They left twice, and the third time, destroyed the temple as Christ prophesied in Matt 23 and 24.How convenient they had 2 opportunities to heed Christ's warnings to flee before the final destruction.
23:36 Truly, I say to you, all this will come upon THIS generation. 37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not! 38 BEHOLD, your house is forsaken and desolate. ...
2 But he answered them, "You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another, that will not be thrown down." ....34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place.

Luke 21:21
Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it;
(Also recorded by historians as factually occuring in the time between 67-70 AD.)

21:22
FOR THESE ARE THE DAYS OF VENGEANCE TO FULFILL ALL THAT IS WRITTEN!!
This speaks for itself.

AD 70 was the time of vengeance (Matt 23, Rev 6&17) that DID fulfill all that was written. Unless you would like to go on record as calling Christ a liar.
Your misunderstandings do NOT nullify the truth of His words and their fulfillment.

>The Preterist heresy may be accepted by many, but it
>will remain a false doctrine. It is a Catholic heresy
>that came from the gnosticism of Origin, Clement, and
>Augustine. It did not come from the Apostles.
>
>Pastor Reckart

This was the cux of your argument and you did NOT use scripture to prove it.
Pastor? Ordained by God?
Or ordained by man?
You prove it with scripture, not baseless personal attacks!

Nate

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