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Subject: Re: Learning from History


Author:
Mom
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Date Posted: 09:12:44 10/12/02 Sat
In reply to: Jon Stasevich 's message, "Re: Learning from History" on 04:46:39 10/09/02 Wed

>The biggest threat to American is American foreign
>policy. We have 1.2 million GI's in occupation of
>other nations throughout the world. I don't see any
>foreign soldiers in our country, so I ask, who is the
>real aggressor? We also supply many other
>dictatorships and other non-democratic governments
>with weapons which have been and still are being used
>against their own populations as well as other
>neighboring nations. We in fact were very happy to
>allow and even supply Sadam with bio-agents and other
>weapons when it suited our purposes. Hell, were the
>one’s who taught him everything he knows. Not only
>did we supply him, we trained and encouraged him in
>his war with Iran (another nation who’s dictator we
>supplied and supported until he was ousted by his own
>people). We have been doing this for over 400 years
>and now we are paying the price. And look at all the
>cry babies coming out of the woodwork!! Oh!, poor
>America.... You see, America makes war not peace and
>that is the real problem. You do not stop war by
>going to war, but instead you simply perpetuate the
>cycle of violence. For those who feel strongly about
>going to war (including anyone in the US Congress or
>the current Administration or any other noble and
>brave Americans) please feel free to contact me
>directly. If you are willing to go directly to the
>front line and do the job, I will be happy to purchase
>a M-16 for you to enjoy. It seems very easy to talk
>about war as long as someone else has to do the actual
>fighting. To those who propose war, I say, put your
>words and strong beliefs into action by signing up for
>the front lines. Then and only then will I will you
>become believable. Until then, I will view you for
>who you really are (a bunch of hypocritical morons and
>blowhards). Have fun.
>
>In addition to the points that I have already made, if
>you really want to know what’s going on, I suggest
>that you follow the money trail. Have you noticed the
>prices at the pump lately. Who do you think is
>capitalizing on these higher prices? Also, have you
>considered the fact that just before the elections and
>all of a sudden, we need to attack Iraq. Did Iraq
>become an immediate threat all of a sudden, requiring
>immediate action before the election or do you think
>the election has anything to do with it? During times
>of war, which political party benefits in the polls?
>
>In regards to Bushes proposed policy of pre-emptive
>strikes, I believe Ted Kennedy said it best. This
>would be like Pearl Harbor in reverse!!! It is
>amazing to me that so many people can't tell the
>difference between offense and defense. Maybe they
>should try looking these words up in Webster’s
>dictionary. Obviously, Bush has never seen the inside
>of a dictionary base upon his demonstrated language
>skills and maybe he is very representative of those
>who admire him.
>
I have only one thing to say to any extremist view. If you dont like this country or it's policies, get involved to change them or get out!! Talk about hypocrisy.

>
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Author:
F Janssens
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Date Posted: 05:21:22 04/27/04 Tue

>>The biggest threat to American is American foreign
>>policy. We have 1.2 million GI's in occupation of
>>other nations throughout the world. I don't see any
>>foreign soldiers in our country, so I ask, who is the
>>real aggressor? We also supply many other
>>dictatorships and other non-democratic governments
>>with weapons which have been and still are being used
>>against their own populations as well as other
>>neighboring nations. We in fact were very happy to
>>allow and even supply Sadam with bio-agents and other
>>weapons when it suited our purposes. Hell, were the
>>one’s who taught him everything he knows. Not only
>>did we supply him, we trained and encouraged him in
>>his war with Iran (another nation who’s dictator we
>>supplied and supported until he was ousted by his own
>>people). We have been doing this for over 400 years
>>and now we are paying the price. >>
> I have only one thing to say to any extremist view.

>If you dont like this country or it's policies, get
>involved to change them or get out!! Talk about
>hypocrisy.
>
Your answer (Leave or love it) is one that shows the absolute lack of any argument against this writing.
But your comparision of Saddam and Hitler is indeed right although you forgot some points:

Both were supplied by the US with weapons against another ennemy. And anti semitism is rooted deeply in American history.

But the US is far more succesful in the annihilation of cities (Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden Tokio Hue) the fighting against poor third world peasants like South East Asia or Central America and invading countries like Panama, Nicaragua, Sudan, Irak Afganistan Vietnam Cambodia, Laos) more than any other nation on the world. (All of this countries have nearly no regualar armies and not any aviation worth of speaking)

So you are the greatest invador of the world and killed since WWII more unarmed civilians than any other country.
It asks lots of courage to bomb peasants from 30.000 feet high !

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