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| Subject: One week late because of Quebec | |
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] Date Posted: 19:21:37 12/02/04 Thu In reply to: Ed Harris (Venezia) 's message, "If..." on 22:25:47 12/01/04 Wed We were one week late entering the Second World War because of the debate on the resolution to go to war in our Parliament, and that was because of Quebec. English Canada was ready and willing to go to war on September 3 and the resolution declaring war was ready that day right after Britain's declaration. It would have passed that day if hadn't been for anti-war Quebeckers. Quebec nationalists held it up in debate for a whole week until it passed on September 10. Their argument was that it was Britain's war and not Canada's. English Canada's view was that we were part of the British Empire and that an attack on Britain would be an attack on us all - they also felt a sense of duty to the mother country and that all British Subjects were in this together. Australia and New Zealand, and even the Union Of South Africa, declared was on September 3. Only Eire remained neutral - out of the war - only to leave the Commonwealth completely soon after it. Quebec had never stopped being a thorn in our side ever since. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:40:32 12/02/04 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Paddy (Scotland) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:12:29 12/02/04 Thu Yes, they didn't even consider that France was at war too. What are the policies of the Bloc Québécois? Do they aim to separate Q from Canada or do they aim to promote Q within Canada at the expense of English Canada? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:18:18 12/02/04 Thu First of all, there are two Quebec separatist parties at different levels. The Bloc Quebecois are the Quebec nationalists in the Canadian federal parliament and the Parti Quebecois is their counterpart in the Quebec provincial legislature (they call the National Assembly). Both are in opposition at the moment. The stated aim is 'sovereignty-association' which means independence for Quebec outside Canada with economic association with what would remain of Canada. There have been two referenda so far. The one in 1980 which was defeated by a 60/40 margin and the one in 1995 which was defeated by a 51/49 margin. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Paddy (Scotland) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:30:53 12/02/04 Thu I recall reading somewhere that if Quebec voted overall to separate the whole province would not leave Canada, just a small, largely urban region where the will to do so was more than 50%. Is this true? I also recall hearing that Princess Patricia's light infantry is a "French" regiment and very loyal to the Crown. Are there many (or any!) Quebecois that are loyal to the Crown? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 22:12:22 12/02/04 Thu In once read an article saying how surprised people were to discover the level of fondness and affection the people of Quebec had for theree Britih monarch. I believ it was written about ten years ago though, lefties have made considerable progresss since then. More recently though I did hear that the leader of the Bloc Quebecois was impartial on the idea of monarchy, though whether the article was reffering to the current leader or not I am unsure I forget when the article was written. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:57:34 12/03/04 Fri Yes, it's true that all of the north of Quebec is native Crown land and that the separatists could not actually take that. They could only get the area along the St. Lawrence River in the south. However, the separatists claim the whole province and Labrador. A recent poll puts the support for the Crown in Quebec at 30% - the lowest in Canada. In neighbouring Ontario, it is at 65%. With only 10% English speaking, that means that 20% of French Quebecers (one fifth) support the Crown - and I have met a few. Don't forget, they have been under the British flag for over 200 years. The separatists are currently out of power in the Province. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |