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Subject: Guevara never managed to kill six million in his whole career


Author:
Ernesto Rafael Guevara de la Serna Lynch
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Date Posted: 15:12:05 01/15/05 Sat
In reply to: Ian (Australia) 's message, "Would there be the same outcry if he wore a Che Guevara t-shirt? I suspect not" on 14:05:13 01/14/05 Fri

Hasta la victoria sempre!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I rather suspect that Rommel didn't either, but that's hardly the point, is it?


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Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 15:51:41 01/15/05 Sat

My gripe is that someone like Che Guevara can make a career out of commiting murder and help set up a dictatorship that continues to commit murder, yet somehow be seen as chic. Rank hypocrisy. A murderous thug is a murderous thug, whatever colour his flag is.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It's sickening you know...


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 16:23:50 01/15/05 Sat

There is a restaurant in a fashionable part of Glasgow called Mao, where people go to enjoy lunch over the watchful gaze of the "chairman". It seems that it is acceptable to theme an eatery as a monument to one of the worst periods of Chinese history. What utter hypocrisy!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Aye, dinnae git me startit


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Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 17:12:26 01/15/05 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: But then Rommel was never a Nazi


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Ein european
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Date Posted: 15:05:19 01/16/05 Sun

In fact he was forced to commit suicide for his alleged involvement in Hitler's attempted assassination in 1944.

He probably never wore a Swastika armband, because only the SS would wear armbands and Rommel was in the Wehrmacht.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: The Nice Nazi?


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Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 16:40:10 01/16/05 Sun

Here, I'm all for standing up for Harry on the grounds that he's not evil but just a bit of a twit, but to suggest that there is a qualitative, rather than quantitative, difference between Rommel and Hitler is absurd. So was less mad than Hitler. So were Mussolini and Franco. Doesn't make them nice chaps. He fought for National Socialist Germany for years, and helped to roll the allies back to the Egyptian border. I doubt that any of his private papers say, "Ach, I am so unhappy because of all the successes which I have won for the Third Reich. I wish that the British would fight me better so my conscience were at rest."

Also bear in mind the fact that many of those who wrote the anti-Jewish legislation did not approve of the Holocaust. Frankly, I do not think that these people were nice chaps because they thought that mass extermination was going a bit far, and that the Reich should stick at putting the Jews in ghettos and making them wear stars and so forth, which was comparatively moderate. These things are all relative, and while Rommel may have been nice compared to, say, Hitler, he was quite nasty compared to, say, Neville Chamberlain.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Not all Germans were bad...


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Ein European
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Date Posted: 17:34:35 01/16/05 Sun

No, he was never a Nazi. He lived in a Nazi state and he was a professional soldier, and a damn good one as well.

THe fact that he was a professional soldier fighting for Germany between 1939-1944 doesn't qualify him automatically as good or bad.

Prussian soldiers didn't question the motives, they just acted to the better of their abilities.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Ah...


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Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 17:54:21 01/16/05 Sun

So he was just following orders, was he? Well, that's fine then.

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