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] Date Posted: 14:08:24 12/24/04 Fri In reply to: yeah 's message, "Kevin (U.S.)" on 09:58:50 12/24/04 Fri Everyone seems quite happy to go around criticising not just the USA, but also Americans as individuals, forgetting that if it weren't for the generosity of the American State and the citizens whom it represents, many millions more people would starve to death every year. Perhaps someone should mention this to Jacques Chirac, Gerhard Schroeder and their Euro pals before they start wearing their t-shirts with pictures of Uncle Sam taking a big bite out of the globe. As for the anti-Christian stuff, I think it's daft. It's like positive dicrimination: there are more Christians than non-Christians, but whereas this would make you or me conclude that we should ignore individuals' religion when condisidering them for a job, in a law-suit etc. in the interests of fairness, lefties would conclude that Christianity should be suppressed in case its prevalence hurts the feelings of non-Christians. And you're right about the backlash: we can see it now. As Mark Steyn says in that article, the more the proselytising Left continues in its "more secular than thou" one-upmanship, the more the barmy Christian Right will gain strength and support. And Ian, as for religion sticking its oar into affairs of State, I think that we have the perfect solution here: have an established Church. In this way, we acknowledge the spiritual as part of the constitution and consider that our duty to god is hereby over and done with, and thus we don't have to think about it any more. I'll give sixpence to anyone who can find a more secular society than Britain... which, I think, is proof that the separation of Church and State is not necessary to keep religion out of politics, and has in fact quite the opposite effect. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:18:35 12/24/04 Fri Indeed, was it not Alistair Campbell who famously quipped "we don't do God"? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:29:04 12/24/04 Fri Its real function is to ensure that the monarch is not subject to a foreign religious leader, which suits me fine. It works for two reasons: 1. no one takes it seriously, and 2. you don't hvae to believe anything to be part of it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |