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Subject: Flags


Author:
Roberdin
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Date Posted: 17:11:21 01/06/05 Thu
In reply to: Ed Harris (London) 's message, "I don't wish to be unkind, but..." on 23:46:25 01/05/05 Wed

I see no problem with St Andrew's Saltire flying proudly in the wind over the Scottish Parliament - no more than I would have a problem with Gibraltar's flag waving over the Rock. The Union flag next to those two says more than it does alone - it says "Scotland is United within the United Kingdom" or "Gibraltar is proud to be a dependant of the UK" rather than "This is the UK or a captured territory thereof and nothing more."

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[> [> [> Subject: Our situation


Author:
Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 17:56:37 01/06/05 Thu

We have three flags flying in official places - the Ontario ensign, the Canadian maple leaf and the Union Jack. The first two are obvious, but we are not part of the UK. The Union Jack flies to show our allegiance to the Crown.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: I presume that varies throughout Canada?


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Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 18:21:31 01/06/05 Thu


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[> [> [> Subject: Well, exacttly. The Canadian Flag is enhanced by its neighbours.


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Roberdin
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Date Posted: 19:42:15 01/06/05 Thu


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Varying flags across Canada


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 20:31:35 01/06/05 Thu

Obviously I was only talking about Ontario because that is where I live. Each province has its own Provincial flag. But in each province the different provincial flags are flown along with the Canadian flag and the Union Jack, except in Quebec ofcourse. Right now, the Canadian flag is missing in Newfoundland.

I am lucky that in Ontario, and also in Manitoba, the provincial flag is a red ensign, so you see the Union Jack twice - in the Provincial flag and on its own. The Canadian flag is the only one without the Union Jack. Even the City of Toronto flag is red, white and blue.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Must have looked great with three UNion Jacks... we only get one ;-)


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Roberdin
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Date Posted: 22:30:45 01/06/05 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: We never had three Union Jacks - only two


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 12:19:23 01/07/05 Fri

The Ontario and Manitoba red ensigns were adopted AFTER the change of the Canadian flag as a reaction to it. So, we had the Canadian Red Ensign and the Union Jack until 1965 and then the Ontario Red Ensign, the Maple Leaf Flag and the Union Jack since 1965.

Nevertheless, two Union Jacks, as is the current case also in places such as the Cayman Islands and Bermuda, still looks better than one, even if one of the Union Jacks is smaller and in the top left corner of an ensign.

I believe Australia and New Zealand do not fly the whole Union Jack any more, but have it in the corner of their national flags.

The Union Jack is really the CANZUK flag as well as the UK flag because it appears in all parts of CANZUK in some form.

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