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| Subject: I've even met Brazilian monarchists | |
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] Date Posted: 13:58:33 11/19/04 Fri In reply to: Roberdin 's message, "Monarchy" on 22:14:14 11/17/04 Wed But then I've also met Brazilian rugby players, who have a marginally greater chance of being taken seriously. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:24:48 11/19/04 Fri Didn't the Portuguese monarchy try to keep going in Brazil after the establishment of the Republic in Lisbon - and with some support in Brazil? I vaguely recall reading about the Crown Prince being encouraged to overthrow the authority of his father in Brazil and to make himself king there. It sounds rather like Franklin and Jefferson and all those herberts inviting the Prince Regent to come over and be the king of an independent America. Moreover, I don't think that this is unique. I think that is has happened several times in Asian monarchies. Pre-British India was replete with members of the royal family setting themselves up as Emperors in provinces of the Mughal Empire, and the rulers of the Kingdoms of Denmark, Norway and Sweden all share common ancestry in the emperors of the Scandinavian Empire, later the Swedish Empire. Perhaps, then, a return to monarchy in Brazil is not entirely implausible. But as for their rugby team, it just goes to show that furriners shouldn't play Commonwealth sports - I rage impotently when I hear about the Dutch cricket team and Italian rugby teams. If everyone else starts to play our sports, then it dilutes one of key cultural areas which highlights our common origins and makes our relationship special. We can hardly say, "Oo look, we all play Rugby but no-one else does, which indicates our close cultural ties", when Japan and Georgia, with which we have no historical links, are playing too. This may be a peculiar and, let's not deny it, stupid attitude, but it's mine and I'm sticking with it... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:18:15 11/19/04 Fri It was founded by young Pedro, who declared "liberty or death" by the banks of the Ipiranga River, basically because he didn't want to go back to Europe after the Napoleonic threat was over. The monarchy was abolished by a military coup in 1889, an event which is celebrated each year on November 15, even by people vigorously opposed to other military coups, such as the one in 1964. When the most recent dictatorship ended in the 1980s, there was a referendum do determine whether Brazilians wanted an executive president, a prime minister or a king. The monarchy option scored single figures, as I recall. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |