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Subject: I agree with what Ed said: the economy is not the whole story


Author:
Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 13:34:59 11/24/04 Wed
In reply to: Mister New Statesman 's message, "ha ha ha" on 18:42:26 11/23/04 Tue

Both sides are putting forward economic arguments that may or may not prove to be correct in practice, but my reasons for wanting closer ties with Britain, Canada and New Zealand are not purely economic: these are simply the countries that I feel closest to.

After all, you don't live with your family just because it's good for business.

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Author:
Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 14:23:22 11/24/04 Wed

To quote a bloke with whom I ususally disagree: "Any nation that gives up its freedom for economic advantage deserves to lose both." The same could be said to apply to giving up a nation's friends.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: it's so easy to get sucked into "bottom line" arguments


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Ian (Australia)
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Date Posted: 14:38:18 11/24/04 Wed

But I don't think we are really all capable of selling our grandmothers for a tax cut.

We argue about economics because both sides feel the other will discredit them for being "impractical" if we don't. With that, we end up forgeting that these were not the reasons we started out with.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Well said


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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 14:52:54 11/24/04 Wed

And it's futile anyway, because economics is more like politics than a science: two people can look at the same figures and come to different conclusions, just as two people can look at the same social problem and put forward different solutions. For once I think that Aristotle was dead wrong: politics and economics are not incompatible - they are broadly the same thing. Adam Smith knew.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Economics is more like alchemy than anything else...


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Paddy (Scotland)
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Date Posted: 09:44:50 11/25/04 Thu


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