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Subject: Yes to visit a foreign power and not a fellow Commonwealth country


Author:
Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 18:07:49 11/11/04 Thu
In reply to: Trixta (UK) 's message, "Nothing is sacred" on 04:31:02 11/11/04 Thu

What is with Blair? Why keep angering the Scots? He is a Scot isn't he? Doesn't he realise that his actions will only help the Scottish Nationalists? Banning bagpipes!? - that's insulting!

I see that since that madman Bush is back in power, his puppy dog Tony Blair is off to see him right away. Blair ignores Remembrance Day, ignores the Commonwealth completely, but is off to see his buddies in his favourite places of Washington and Brussels.

I read how Tony Blair went on American television urging Americans to visit Britain. No such invitation for Canadians. This man is singlehandedly destroying the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. He must be kicked out at the next election.

Blair is the first PM of the UK who puts other countries' interests above those of his own.

I am annoyed only with Blair's Britain, but I am still proud of the old, traditional Britain, which must make a comeback. This is the Britain of putting the Commonwealth first above all foreign countries after taking care of its own local business. I would like to see a more British, less Americanised and less Europeanised Britain - in other words the old traditional Britain. Wishful thinking, eh?

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[> [> [> Subject: Banning Bagpipes?


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 11:27:13 11/12/04 Fri

Eh?

When was this and where did it come from? I'd like to see him try it!

TB may have been born in Scotland but he is as proud of his Scottish roots as he is of our Parliament, our constitution, our institutions, our coutryside pursuits, our history and the Commonwealth.

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[> [> [> Subject: Blair


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Paddy (Scotland)
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Date Posted: 13:11:49 11/12/04 Fri

He shows very clearly where his loyalty lies.

This is the kind of gesture that I would imagine would get him out of office, but the demographics of the once proud nation of which we are speaking have changed in a direction that no longer guarantees it.

The right side is that of Crown, Country and Commonwealth, all of which he has let down in the most depressing way during his time in office.

He is not even greatly loved in the U.S. by the Republican party, especially not the Vice President. They think that he is a creepy european-style-sociallist.

He has no Honour, and neither do his government backbenchers who repeatedly vote against their own personal views in order to keep Labour in power.

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[> [> [> Subject: Scottish Blair?


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Owain (UK)
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Date Posted: 14:20:35 11/12/04 Fri

Jim, Blair is Scottish?

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Yes, he was born in Scotland


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Jim (Canada)
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Date Posted: 16:43:22 11/12/04 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: And he went to Fettes School In Edinburgh


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Paddy (Scotland)
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Date Posted: 20:32:05 11/12/04 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Fettes is generally not thought of as a "Scottish" school in Scotland nt


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David Hicks
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Date Posted: 20:59:50 11/13/04 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That's quite a strange way of looking at it...


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Paddy (Scotland)
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Date Posted: 00:51:54 11/14/04 Sun


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[> [> [> [> Subject: When a Scotsman is not a Scots man


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Trixta (UK)
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Date Posted: 14:58:50 11/14/04 Sun

Strange as it may be, a lot of Scots, particularly those in Glasgow, view Edinburgh as more English than Scottish. Obviously Edinburgh is the capitol of Scotland, though this is more to do with it having a castle in modern terms. Glasgow is often referred to as the unofficial capitol of Scotland as it is Scots to its very core - not the tourist-friendly tartan n haggis type of Scottishness but the hard-drinking, chain-smoking, ship-building Scottishness that has more basis in reality and less in the warblings of Burns.

That is not to say there aren't Scots in Edinburgh, or that it isn't Scottish - obviously it is - just that it is very anglicised.

Thus you have the wonderful paradox whereby a Scottish-born, Scottish-educated man can still be viewed as an English (insert expletive of choice here).

You think I'm joking, don't you. Okay, do your best at speaking in a Glasgow accent. Awful, probably, but at least you know what it is. Now try an Edinbugger accent. See?

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Scottishness?


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 16:19:46 11/14/04 Sun

"Strange as it may be, a lot of Scots, particularly those in Glasgow, view Edinburgh as more English than Scottish."

"the hard-drinking, chain-smoking, ship-building Scottishness that has more basis in reality and less in the warblings of Burns."

You seem to define degrees of Scottishness in terms of how working-class it is perceived. This is not a definition that I share, and is in fact one that I find offensive.


"Okay, do your best at speaking in a Glasgow accent"

Which part of Glasgow, Govan or Kelvinside?

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