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] Date Posted: 18:40:28 11/15/04 Mon In reply to: A 's message, "Remembering, but learning?" on 18:25:16 11/15/04 Mon ... in which he said that Germans should always remember that their democracy was not achieved by their own struggles, but was a gift from others: our gift, and worthy of being remembered. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: A [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:26:37 11/15/04 Mon Ian, like I say to the other posters, I have no doubt of the sacrifice in World War II, and the ending of the barbaric regime in Europe, but I also remember that in school remembrance services and elsewhere, that people used them to glorify various wars usually nothing to do with WWII. What's the point in remembering if you don't learn from it? Surely it's worse if you can see what went before and you're repeating the same mistakes. Thank God we didn't enter Vietnam, as the poor ANZACs were made to, but look at what's come since WWII. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (venezia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:33:57 11/15/04 Mon Remembering is the point, not learning. Learning is up to the politicians, not the veterans with half their limbs missing. At remembrance services, there is never any mention of the justice of particular wars, past and present, just the hardship and sacrifices of the people who ended up taking part in them. That is only fair. And if you were taught in school to glorify wars, then I guess that you went to school a long time ago, probably before 1919. Since then, wars have been descibed in all schools in the British world as a source of sadness and regret. Except America, of course, where they make the exceptions of the American Revolution, World War II and the Star Wars troligy. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:44:48 11/15/04 Mon ANZAC Day services were always very solemn occasions. What's the point in remembering if you don't also learn? Look at it this way: if we forget, we have also lost the chance to learn. Remembering keeps alive the possibility of learning. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |