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] Date Posted: 22:49:24 01/24/05 Mon It seems NZ are the latest Commonwealth country to be embarrased at their heritage. A petition campaign has been launched to change the flag for the general election campaign. NZ Flag Campaign Among their celebrity supporters, Erin Baker, World Champion Tri Athlete quotes: "New Zealand requires a flag which each and every New Zealander can instantly recognise and can feel proud of. I would be very surprised if I am the only New Zealander that never quite knows how many stars we have, nor feels any ownership of it." Hmm, it's four red stars on a blue field Erin, and I've never been there! I wonder who she thinks owns the stars of the Southern Cross? I suspect it's what is in the canton that she has a problem with, rather than the number of stars. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (London) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:10:56 01/24/05 Mon I rather like the NZ flag. In fact, I think that the red stars with the white outline actually looks more splendid than the Aussie plain white stars. However, I think that, as well as the hostility chez Lefties for the Jack in the canton, there is another aspect which you haven't touched upon. Quite simply, from a distance, the NZ and Australian flags look kind of similar. There is a desire to distance NZ from its larger neighbour as well as that rather antiquated old beast, Great Britain, with all its negative, racist, non-green baggage. I always suggest to New Zealanders that they should just change the colour of the ensign to a nice hippie green and keep the Jack and the stars... maybe replace the stars with some Maori whirly thing like they have on their coins if they're feeling particularly keen on the effnic thing. In fact, here's an idea: I presume that the NZ flag-changers have a similar website to the Aussie republicans (www.ausflag.com?) where they exchange new flag ideas to get rid of that hide-bound old British one. Why don't we come up with a new, NZ-specific flag, and post it on their website as a contribution to the debate (as it might be a green ensign with stars or an effnic whirly thing), and attribute it to the FCS? There could be a preamble - you know, our belief in maintaining distinct identities within the Crown Commonwealth without prejudicing loyalty to QEII etc. etc. It might finally get us a Kiwi member or two. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:21:19 01/24/05 Mon I remember seeing a black flag with a silver fern being mooted not so long ago. However, I thought it looked more like a banner you would bring to an All-Blacks game, rather than a national flag. Australia will be adopting the inflatable kangaroo next. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ian (Australia) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 00:28:52 01/25/05 Tue Anyone who thinks Australia and New Zealand's flags are too similar should try these tests: http://www.statusquo.org/flagitfolder/flagit_frames.htm [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: damn copy cats | |
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Author: Aussie [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:27:02 01/25/05 Tue if only new Zealand had been creative instead of copy Australia's magnificant flag. >>>I rather like the NZ flag. In fact, I think that the red stars with the white outline actually looks more splendid than the Aussie plain white stars<<< except Australias are noticable from a distance, and we have the commonwealth star, and we have all stars of the actual southern cross. I think this triathlete should learn to count, and also realise that just because she can run, swim and ride does not qualify her to influence others decisions. I would love for New Zealand to change though, they should never have copied us, and it would eliminate the major argument in the republicans change the flag case, [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Changing the flag will be a very divisive and emotional issue. Canada tore itself apart over that issue in 1964 | |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:15:43 01/25/05 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |