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Subject: Absolute crap. The more I read about Europe, the less convinced I am that it is worth the jobs.


Author:
Roberdin
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Date Posted: 17:49:13 01/26/05 Wed
In reply to: Dave (UK) 's message, "Gibraltar Sellout Update..." on 22:31:15 01/25/05 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Europe is a continent, not the Brussels bureaucracy


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Eurorealist, anti-Brussels
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Date Posted: 18:48:12 01/26/05 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: Hm.


Author:
Ed Harris (London)
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Date Posted: 19:09:01 01/26/05 Wed

On the other hand, if one is not to be pedantic, one must acknowledge the fact that the word "Europe" is often used as short hand for the rather cumbersome "European Union", the the same way that we often say "Britain" for the even more cumbersome "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Her Territories Overseas".

Europeans, even more than the British, use this inaccurate shorthand. They use the word to denote the 15/25 countries which are members of the EU, when in fact Europe consists of 52 countries or thereabouts, depending on how many eastern countries are falling apart this week.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Europe the continent...


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Dave (UK)
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Date Posted: 19:17:36 01/26/05 Wed

I was thinking this exact thought the other day. I feel that politicians use the word "Europe" deliberately when describing the European Union, primarily as a cynical ploy to transfer the natural affinity and goodwill we have towards the nations and culture of Europe, to the political aspirations of the EU.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Spot on Dave... this is exactly it. We are all Europeans, but not as they want us to be


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Eurorealist...
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Date Posted: 19:50:39 01/26/05 Wed


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