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] Date Posted: 22:31:15 01/25/05 Tue More EU interference... Form the Panormama News Service... UK Government must not let Gibraltar down The European Commission has formally requested that the UK abolishes the Exempt Company tax regime in Gibraltar by the end of 2010 at the latest on the grounds that the scheme violates Treaty provisions on state aids and competition. The Commission has signalled its intention to put a "decisive end to the last offshore tax regime in Gibraltar". The UK has one month to accept the decision or be subject to a formal state aids investigation. Commenting on the Commission's announcement Neil Parish MEP (South West of England and Gibraltar) said: "The British Government owes it to Gibraltar to stand up to the Commission and kill off this proposal. “A major part of Gibraltar's economy is made up of the companies that benefit from the current arrangements and we expect the Government to do everything it can to keep enterprises in Gibraltar. “We should be encouraging tax competition in Europe, not tax harmonisation." [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
| [> Subject: Absolute crap. The more I read about Europe, the less convinced I am that it is worth the jobs. | |
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Author: Roberdin [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:49:13 01/26/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Europe is a continent, not the Brussels bureaucracy | |
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Author: Eurorealist, anti-Brussels [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:48:12 01/26/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Ed Harris (London) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:09:01 01/26/05 Wed On the other hand, if one is not to be pedantic, one must acknowledge the fact that the word "Europe" is often used as short hand for the rather cumbersome "European Union", the the same way that we often say "Britain" for the even more cumbersome "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Her Territories Overseas". Europeans, even more than the British, use this inaccurate shorthand. They use the word to denote the 15/25 countries which are members of the EU, when in fact Europe consists of 52 countries or thereabouts, depending on how many eastern countries are falling apart this week. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Europe the continent... | |
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Author: Dave (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:17:36 01/26/05 Wed I was thinking this exact thought the other day. I feel that politicians use the word "Europe" deliberately when describing the European Union, primarily as a cynical ploy to transfer the natural affinity and goodwill we have towards the nations and culture of Europe, to the political aspirations of the EU. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Spot on Dave... this is exactly it. We are all Europeans, but not as they want us to be | |
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Author: Eurorealist... [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:50:39 01/26/05 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: I'm surprised how politicians can push for the EU... | |
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Author: Frank (US) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:08:41 01/27/05 Thu Personally, as an American I'm astonished that somehow how so many politicians in both ur Labour and Conservative parties seem to push for the EU even though it would seem that a significant majority of Britain and even on Europe doesn't want an EU or doesn't care. I mean seriously, I remember a while ago on some EU parliamentry election or something and how the press was saying how the turnout was incredibly low throughout Europe...and in Britain, its sad how both the major parties support the EU when polls show that a majority of Britons don't...I just stunned on how they can get away with it... [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Its people dont really care anymore, or not enough people do | |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:12:35 01/27/05 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: It's mentality. | |
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Author: Ed Harris (London) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:38:57 01/27/05 Thu I read a wonderful line about Britain's recovery of self-esteem following the Falklands, the Gulf War, and the economic miracle of the mid-1990s, which is still going strong ten years later. It was something like, "Modern Britons can no more see in themselves the craven, beaten people of the 1970s as they can in the triumphant, all-powerful people of the 1890s." While that made me smile, I think that it should be qualified. Many of our political attitudes have yet to catch up. The idea that Britain could not survive on its own through terminal decline, decolonisation, the ghastliness of Suez and the Cold War, has persisted. Many people feel that Britain, isolated from Europe, would be as irrelevant in world affairs as Venezuela, and just as powerless to defend its economic, political and military interests. It is, of course, nonsense. Britain is back in business, and the EU is holding us back. America has stopped sharing military and intelligence material with us because we are treaty-bound to share it all with Europe. The EU has announced that the leader of the opposition's immigration policy (making it the same as Australia's) would be illegal under European law. Our businesses lose billions a year in filling out EU forms and conforming to EU social and employment measures. Our environmental measures to increase fish stocks are made worthless by the trawling of our waters by Spanish and Polish fishing fleets. All this we put up with because of the prevailing feeling that it's better to cope with these problems than all the problems which we'd have outside of the 'protecting' embrace of European co-operation. It is not all bad news, though. The huge surge in Eurosceptic opinion in this country demonstrates glimmerings of recognition that it is now all a big con, since we are more than capable of surviving on our own. We are rich, fat, happy, sitting on vast nuclear stockpiles, our armies are in Afghanistan, Iraq, West Afica, the Balkans and Heaven-knows where else, and it has been demonstrated that the blessing of the UN and the EU is about as necessary to the maintenance of our friendship with the USA as would be the consent of Ulan Bator. I would, of course, prefer to see Britain out of the EU and integrating with the Crown Commonwealth, but as a second best I would have us standing loud and proud on our own. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: yelly bellied politicians | |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:01:09 01/27/05 Thu "...as a second best I would have us standing loud and proud on our own." Amen to that. What we need is a tough leader, someone who isnt scared of upsetting some people and pissing off one or two foreign countries (not including ones we are requested to invade by our American allies). Sadly too many politicians in our country these days are so yellow bellied. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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Author: Owain (UK) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:02:59 01/27/05 Thu Dont interpret the idea of a "tough leader" as facism. Bush is a tough leader and by no means a facist. Infact many of the tough leaders of Europe (they have quite a few, lucky buggers) are closer to facism. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: That should include standing up to the Americans instead of taking orders from them | |
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Author: Jim (Canada) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:50:29 01/27/05 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |